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That is a great idea.

Since he shouldn’t give out other people’s names or info, he would not be able to prove it. So would you even believe him if he did or just push for more details saying he hasn’t shown it’s for real yet?

I am not a fan of 3 Nephite stories, but just speculating here as to whether or not it is so far fetched to have those with extended, protected life spans. Assuming God exists (we can even simply define him as an extremely advanced being) and he has massive (won’t even call it perfect to put it in a more practical frame) knowledge due to existing eons (we can also ignore the spiritual side of things), wouldn’t he have a sufficient knowledge of human anatomy and medicine to remove aging effects and be able to increase the body’s own healing process to accelerate healing of injuries from accidents? That would leave death by massive injuries still needing to be avoided in order to survive, but if his medical knowledge is advanced to the point he can bring people back to life, even that might not be an issue. If we can imagine the possibilities of the away team for Star Trek where they had individual force fields to protect from injury, transporter beams to remove them immediately from danger, I speculate that God—with his millions of years more to think of and then experiment and create devices—could create much more effective ways of doing the same thing. I don’t see it as an impossibility if we first assume there is a God watching over humanity’s development on earth…whether there is anything spiritual or perfect about him or he is a very advanced being, possibly a human creating more of his kind for whatever reason….makes sense to me it could be done with enough advanced science and medicine.

I wonder if there will be a backlash or given the lawsuit, it will be accepted as expected and no big deal given the previous emotional investment into BYU by some in the Jewish community. https://www.cllct.com/sports-collectibles/memorabilia/byu-qb-jake-retzlaff-celebrating-jewish-pride-in-deal-with-manischewitz What would be the typical reaction of a college with the lawsuit dropped? Since at this point, Retzlaff’s claim it was consensual is no longer being legally challenged, but is out there in public awareness. I assume the vast majority of colleges don’t have an honor code these days that forbids premarital sex. Apparently he is headed to Baylor.

Given the lawsuit being dismissed (settled?), I wonder what has happened to his sponsorship. And it looks like his nickname (which I was unaware of) will shortly be obsolete (webbles mentioned this earlier, but it didn’t registered with me given I am not interested in football) https://kslsports.com/ncaa/byu-football/jake-retzlaff-civil-dismiss/551407 https://www.sportico.com/leagues/college-sports/2024/jake-retzlaff-byjew-trademark-nickname-byu-1234819892/#:~:text=December 10%2C 2024 8:26pm,has endorsed the Chabad's shirts.) https://kslsports.com/ncaa/byu-football/jake-retzlaff-report/548677 I don’t understand. If he graduated, how could he continue to play for BYU?

I was always taught anyone who was deprived for reasons outside of their control (which category homosexual attraction would appear to fall into these days) would have a chance to get married in this life would have the chance in the next. Pretty sure it’s all through church teachings with blessings in general misses in this life being given in the next….though I suspect the specific marriage blessing comments has likely been directed more at single women than men since it was perceived to be more about men being able to choose or not in the vast majority of cases while women had to passively wait to be asked In the past a big issue was made of female members who chose to get married to nonmembers or outside the temple in my youth classes. Some thought they lost their chance, others did not.

Someone is going to take you seriously, lol

I was wondering the same thing because I have done some epic long posts and with my regular size post rate I can’t imagine not hitting the amount he has done above even if it’s only been one epic a day.

Except Book was off with his colony in the movie and so didn’t have to be on the show anyway and something could have come up with Wash as well, though given he was married, killing him off was a less complicated approach. My problem is not so much he died, but the meaningless of it. It was done purely for shock, imo, everyone thinks they are safe, etc.

That is what he said when asked. Do people really go to movies without hearing about the shockers beforehand? Most probably knew about it before they walked in. I liked all the characters, but the relationships weren’t as satisfying. There was friendship, not passion between the married couple with the teasing, etc.

I think 3DOP has made it clear it was a problem for him and most Catholic parents when he said I don’t think it helps to trivialize Catholic response to the point of suggesting it is not a problem for a devout or any other Catholic (in this case Rory) that the CC did not take significant steps in many cases to prevent abuse when leaders learned of it. I would be hurt if you said something like that to me.

About halfway through iirc he starts explaining why people put their videos, etc out there…iirc, it was mostly they are showing to others who think like they do that they are taking risks, etc. Virtue signaling, establishing credibility with their group more or less. He may have had some substantive stuff to say at the end, but I stop watching after while because that kind of stuff just tells me what he is thinking, not about scripture or others’ actual ideas. If he had presented it as ‘this is what it seems to me is going on’ and not as fact, I would feel differently about it, but he himself is coming from a position of authority in that video, his expertise on scripture, so for him to continue in the same vein on something that is not scripture, that he can’t truly know is fact and is instead making assumptions about based on part on his experiences, but also most likely his own biases…this bothers me.

Here is the transcript without timestamps (the description has each timestamp for each item), too lazy to include punctuation and capitalization all right buckle up because I guarantee you that some of the things on this list are going to blow your mind i've been data mining for weeks and we're about to look at the top 10 most shocking revealing surprising and counterintuitive statistics about Latter-day Saints let's do it number 10 according to a 2022 Pew Research Survey Christian groups and non-religious groups generally have negative feelings about Latter-day Saints but the reverse is not true despite the negativity they receive Latter-day Saints feel overwhelmingly positive about members of other Christian and even non-religious groups in fact if you are Protestant Catholic Jewish or Muslim Latter-day Saints are your biggest fans and hang tight because we're going to circle back around to this when we talk about atheists later in this video number nine strap yourself in utah residents use more anti-depressants than the national average now even though less than half of Utah residents identify as Latter-day Saints some still assert that the LDS faith causes depression there's just such an emphasis on perfectionism etc that said studies typically find Latter-day Saints lower in depression anxiety and suicidal thoughts when compared to other religious groups and those of no religion so a statistic about Utah is not necessarily a statistic about Latter-day Saints but still why is there so much depression in Utah well there are lots of factors at play but interestingly multiple studies have shown that there is actually a strong correlation between depression and living in states at higher elevations it's called chronic hypobaric hypoxia and it apparently can disrupt brain serotonin levels regarding toxic perfectionism a recent study found that Latter-day Saints generally struggle with perfectionism just as much as people from other religions do interestingly that same study found that atheists agnostics and former Latter-day Saints tend to struggle with toxic perfectionism at significantly higher rates than people affiliated with a religion number eight demographically Latter-day Saints in the United States are mostly white big surprise there but that is quickly changing while there was hardly any change between 2007 and 2014 between 2014 and 2024 white membership dropped by 12% that's not to say that membership dropped by 12% but the ratio of white members versus non-white members dropped 12% and despite some of the fraught racial history of the church today Latter-day Saints score higher than any other Christian group in the belief that racial diversity strengthens our country number seven this one was totally unexpected today Latter-day Saints believe that both men and women use priesthood power but only men are ordained to a priesthood office according to a 2011 survey the vast majority of both male and female members didn't have a problem with male only ordination but interestingly the minority view that women should be ordained to the priesthood was an opinion held mostly by men number six in the same survey Latter-day Saints were asked to rank how important certain life goals were to them 50% of Americans only half of the general public said that being a good parent was one of the most important things in life among Latter-day Saints that number jumps to 81% only 35% of the general public considered having a successful marriage to be one of the most important things in life latter-day Saints more than doubled that percentage coming in at 73% latter-day Saints want to be good parents and they want successful marriages number five it's been a hard decade for religion everywhere but check this out in 2017 church membership shrunk in nine states in 2018 it shrunk in 13 states at the height of COVID between 2020 and 2021 membership shrunk in 22 states in 2024 guess how many states experienced a net loss in membership only one get it together Wyoming all of that said while the Protestant US population has unfortunately declined by 11% over the last 17 years and the Catholic population by 5% which I don't like to see Latter-day Saint membership has held steady at about 2% of the population number four how important is the Bible to Latter-day Saints really after all we don't believe in soloscripura we don't believe in biblical inherency and we do believe in scripture beyond the Bible that has given some people the impression that we don't take the Bible all that seriously the data says otherwise only about 46% of mainline Protestants Catholics and Orthodox Christians said the Bible was very or extremely important in their lives latter-day Saints 80% we're right up there with evangelicals and historically black Protestant churches in this category on top of that when a 2010 survey quizzed religious and non-religious groups on biblical knowledge Latter-day Saints scored higher than any other group not bringing that up to brag but rather to make the point that the Bible is not gathering dust in Latter-day Saint homes number three I've actually got three separate data points here that I think are somewhat related and all fascinating according to Pew Research Latter-day Saints are the only Christian group who had net positive feelings towards atheists and even though Latter-day Saints are highly religious they believe more so than any Christian group surveyed that people who do not believe in God can still be moral and have good values they also believe more than any other religious or non-religious group surveyed that science and religion are compatible number two as you know over a hundred years ago Latter-day Saints used to practice polygamy but how common was it some leaders had lots of wives and families in part because they could economically support lots of wives and families but this wasn't the norm as it turns out only about one out of every five men actually practiced plural marriage this map separates the practice out based on location in 1870 showing that even though polygamy was an accepted practice generally a little less than 25% of Utons actually lived in a polygamous household number one Latter-day Saints don't drink coffee tea or alcohol so we have instead developed somewhat of a reputation for drinking a lot of soda but how much soda do Latter-day Saints actually drink well the best data I could find on this comes from a couple of CDC surveys on sugar sweetened beverage intake be advised that the data may be somewhat skewed because it includes all sugary drinks not just soda also again keep in mind that less than half of Utons identify as Latter-day Saints and also that most Latter-day Saints live outside of the United States altogether so this is a Mormon bubble issue but if we rank the states by sugary drink consumption Utah comes in 45th place utah's favorite soda they're doing the dew also did you know the Latter-day Saints know more about lasers Moby **** Susan B anthony and Charles Darwin than any other Christian group in the country weird flex but we'll take it now a lot of these statistics represent things that are changing over time and that is a major theme of this top 10 episode where we talk about Latter-day Saint teachings practices policies and perhaps even doctrines that could change in the future here

I was disappointed he didn’t mention for 9/second given (Utahns take more antidepressants) that getting treatment for depression is not identical to having depression. Maybe Utahns are more willing to get medical treatment, don’t try to self medicate with alcohol or illicit drugs as much, maybe they don’t have enough therapists and so rely more on meds, or something else that raises drug treatment rates while not affecting depression rates. Utah may have a high depression rate, but that is something different. He is confusing the two. Very happy to hear a lot of the stats. I bolded them below. The sugary drink thing…glad to see we are not drowning in it after all….at least we aren’t drowning as fast as others might be, lol

belief in 1828: Knowledge: The connotations of knowledge for me are likely different than Webster’s view above because since I see our perceptions are human and mortal, therefore they can never be fully trusted. Knowledge just isn’t limited, but it is unreliable because perception is unreliable. So knowledge for me is more strong belief than a different quality of experience that is based in ultimate truth. Knowledge may feel certain possibly because the impact of our experience or possibly because we perceive our experiences to have been repeated over and over with the same result or we perceive we share the same perceptions with others…but there is always in my view the possibility we are wrong. There are people who say they know for a fact the earth is flat and they have done experiments that prove it. I have seen videos of people doing these. Unfortunately they don’t understand the variables influencing those experiments or the implications. They still see it as knowledge because in their view it’s been proven. But for those of us who reject their proofs, it’s only their beliefs…which leads me to accept belief and knowledge as meaning the same thing practically speaking. I need Mark to show up, lol.

Teaching ones are no go for ten years, they can do service missions since everyone can after age 26. But wondering if this means solely from home and after 40 for away ones, though service missions are described as only living at home on the church website. Are there senior missions that are considered pure service that are away from home? Do senior missionaries who serve in mission homes or other church callings go out teaching at all? Or do they qualify to be called teaching missions because they may have the chance if they are outgoing enough to chat with others, etc, while they go about their service work…whether they take that chance or not?

I can’t remember if my son came home a month early or we just discussed it because we were moving back to the States in 2003. He had a few weeks and then some unexpected time when the university demanded my husband come back for his last month instead of taking built up sick/vacation/sabbatical days which they said he could do until we actually moved. My son decided to go back with his dad to keep him company and have more time to say goodbye (the move was unexpected, when he left on his mission he expected to live in Canada the rest of his life as far as I know). Thankfully there were friends they could stay with, so besides making me really pissed off getting dumped with all the moving in stuff and being bored because we had no car and no Internet (must have hitched a ride shopping with my in-laws down the street, but knowing me back then asking for them to help us hook up would have been imposing) as they took it back with them, it wasn’t a big deal though it raised my husband’s anxiety level over his new classes big time since he had lost a lot of time. Didn’t need that whole story, but I know we had discussed prior to his mission timing with college and taking the option to come home early. He was and is very Peter Priesthood in terms of his involvement in the Church. And I was all for getting the ‘whole mission experience’ for educational/personal development reasons. I was upset his foreign mission was to Utah of all places (he and his father were born in the hospital in Provo).

Except for that one moment of tragedy, which imo was not needed to up the conflict or emotional investment, given the other deaths. But Whedon likes to shock his audience.

Apparently in the semi recent (2013) past, women typically served teaching missions until 40, but at 40 were more often called on service missions. https://latterdaysaintmissionprep.com/call-process/missionary-age-requirements/ There was no age requirement for couples either, though they couldn’t be working full time and couldn’t have dependents children at home if on a away mission. So my question is can young service missionaries go on away (from home) missions or only serve from home?

Should have done this first…on the serve a mission home page: https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/callings/missionary?lang=eng So there is an age limit for teaching missions for sisters…unless it’s been changed very recently and the online stuff is way behind. Possible, but not seeing anything in the newsroom about it.

https://www.churchofjesuschrist.org/study/manual/general-handbook/24?lang=eng#title_number2 Service missionaries who stay at home appear to be any age for women or men. Not sure about those away from home. This is what is confusing to me because other places use have service missions as away from home as well, but maybe only for senior? https://newsroom.churchofjesuschrist.org/article/young-service-missionaries-integrated-into-teaching-missions-2024 Has it changed since Jan 2024?

Belief vs knowledge….is there anyone who actually no longer believes, but knows they are wrong in that belief? Seems unlikely, even impossible.

I don’t know if this is still a dominant view even among members older than I am, but the idea that homosexual love could be that deep was not common at least among church members in my youth in my experience (and I lived on the San Francisco peninsula so there was quite a bit of discussion about it, including personal relationships with those who were open about their sexuality…though can’t remember any that were still members of the Church at the time after they came out. It was also a big deal at BYU). Some viewed it as a purely physical attraction, as in no one cared about what the other thought or wanted, it was just body hunger. Then there was the narcissism view…someone was only really in love with themselves…or a little kinder, only felt safe with someone like them. Others viewed as a fear of deep symbiotic relationships in general, so sure they may actually love each other, but it wouldn’t be a deep, committed love as they were going for the easier relationships (because it was seen as easier to understand and fill the needs of someone of the same sex). No doubt there were other ideas, but most likely had the attribute that such love was relatively easy to put aside and be replaced with something else, especially since that love would be so much more ‘real’ than what they had before.

It is very different than telling someone they will simply want to do less of what they want to do (have heterosexual sex/sexual attraction with fewer people or with the person you are in love with only when you are married and sealed to them). Even if there are other things we expect we will be doing that we aren’t happy about doing in the here and now (perhaps some people don’t want to be kind to people, serve others, etc), somehow I doubt anyone feels disgust towards those possibilities unless they are a real misanthrope. If they are, they have a whole host of issues with exaltation I am guessing, and are quite rare, so not exactly useful to wave away the difference between the ‘typical’ homosexual view of our current teaching of exaltation and the ‘typical’ heterosexual view of our current teaching****. Can’t think of anything that might be comparable outside of possibly polygamy (not saying it’s for sure to occur or how it will exist even if it happens as in may not be only polygyny if polygamy actually happens, but also polyandry) and even then there is still the likely inclination to have a close physical/sexual relationship with one person (it’s the idea of sharing that is disgusting, not sexual attraction/behavior) unless one is disgusted by sex in general. I expect a lot of heterosexuals believe homosexuals wouldn’t mind having sex with the opposite sex since they are physically capable of doing so (as evidenced by gay men who have been married with women and had children), they would just prefer to have it with their own sex even when those heterosexuals are disgusted by the idea of any form of homosexual sex themselves. ****I have no clue what the ‘typical’ view of a bisexual of exaltation would be. In the past I assumed it would be no big deal as opposite sex attraction was part of their current attraction set, but I now suspect it is more complicated than that based on how Nehor and others have described their experiences and so am not drawing any conclusions on whether it is naturally easier for them to accept teachings about exaltation than someone who is homosexual.