LDS Watchman Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 Here's a little something I've been working on. It's not finished, but here is a compilation of scriptures about the coming Last Day's Servant of the Lord who will set the Lord's house in order, gather Israel, and redeem Zion. It's pretty long, but I wanted to document just how many scriptures speak of this coming servant and his mission. Davidic Servant/King In the latter/last days the Lord will send a servant, referred to as “David” (Beloved). This servant will be a descendant of the ancient King David who will be a shepherd and king over the entire house of Israel. Joseph Smith stated that in the last days the throne of David would be given to another man of his lineage. He implied that unlike the ancient King David, this last days descendant of David would have the spirit and power of Elijah and the fulness of the priesthood. Although David was a king, he never did obtain the spirit and power of Elijah and the fullness of the Priesthood; and the Priesthood that he received, and the throne and kingdom of David is to be taken from him and given to another by the name of David in the last days, raised up out of his lineage. (Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith, p. 339) 22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. 23 And I will set up one shepherd over them, and he shall feed them, even my servant David; he shall feed them, and he shall be their shepherd. 24 And I the Lord will be their God, and my servant David a prince among them; I the Lord have spoken it. (Ezekiel 34) 21 And say unto them, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I will take the children of Israel from among the heathen, whither they be gone, and will gather them on every side, and bring them into their own land: 22 And I will make them one nation in the land upon the mountains of Israel; and one king shall be king to them all: and they shall be no more two nations, neither shall they be divided into two kingdoms any more at all: 23 Neither shall they defile themselves any more with their idols, nor with their detestable things, nor with any of their transgressions: but I will save them out of all their dwellingplaces, wherein they have sinned, and will cleanse them: so shall they be my people, and I will be their God. 24 And David my servant shall be king over them; and they all shall have one shepherd: they shall also walk in my judgments, and observe my statutes, and do them. 25 And they shall dwell in the land that I have given unto Jacob my servant, wherein your fathers have dwelt; and they shall dwell therein, even they, and their children, and their children’s children for ever: and my servant David shall be their prince for ever. 26 Moreover I will make a covenant of peace with them; it shall be an everlasting covenant with them: and I will place them, and multiply them, and will set my sanctuary in the midst of them for evermore. (Ezekiel 37) 4 For the children of Israel shall abide many days without a king, and without a prince, and without a sacrifice, and without an image, and without an ephod, and without teraphim: 5 Afterward shall the children of Israel return, and seek the Lord their God, and David their king; and shall fear the Lord and his goodness in the latter days. (Hosea 3) 8 For it shall come to pass in that day, saith the Lord of hosts, that I will break his yoke from off thy neck, and will burst thy bonds, and strangers shall no more serve themselves of him: 9 But they shall serve the Lord their God, and David their king, whom I will raise up unto them. (Jeremiah 30) 5 And in mercy shall the throne be established: and he shall sit upon it in truth in the tabernacle of David, judging, and seeking judgment, and hasting righteousness. (Isaiah 16) 20 ¶ And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will call my servant Eliakim (God will raise up) the son of Hilkiah (God is my portion): 21 And I will clothe him with thy robe, and strengthen him with thy girdle, and I will commit thy government into his hand: and he shall be a father to the inhabitants of Jerusalem, and to the house of Judah. 22 And the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder; so he shall open, and none shall shut; and he shall shut, and none shall open. 23 And I will fasten him as a nail in a sure place; and he shall be for a glorious throne to his father’s house. (Isaiah 22) 3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David. 4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people. (Isaiah 55) The Branch Servant The “Branch” is another title for the coming Davidic Servant/King. Another title for him is “The Lord (Jehovah) [is] our Righteousness” 5 ¶ Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will raise unto David a righteous Branch, and a King shall reign and prosper, and shall execute judgment and justice in the earth. 6 In his days Judah shall be saved, and Israel shall dwell safely: and this is his name whereby he shall be called, The Lord Our Righteousness. (Jeremiah 23) 15 ¶ In those days, and at that time, will I cause the Branch of righteousness to grow up unto David; and he shall execute judgment and righteousness in the land. 16 In those days shall Judah be saved, and Jerusalem shall dwell safely: and this is the name wherewith she shall be called, The Lord our righteousness. (Jeremiah 33) 8 Hear now, O Joshua (the Lord/Jehovah is Salvation) the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the BRANCH. (Zechariah 3) 12 And speak unto him, saying, Thus speaketh the Lord of hosts, saying, Behold the man whose name is The BRANCH; and he shall grow up out of his place, and he shall build the temple of the Lord: 13 Even he shall build the temple of the Lord; and he shall bear the glory, and shall sit and rule upon his throne; and he shall be a priest upon his throne: and the counsel of peace shall be between them both. (Zechariah 6) The Rod and Root of Jesse 1 And there shall come forth a rod out of the stem of Jesse, and a Branch shall grow out of his roots: 2 And the spirit of the Lord shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the Lord; 3 And shall make him of quick understanding in the fear of the Lord: and he shall not judge after the sight of his eyes, neither reprove after the hearing of his ears: 4 But with righteousness shall he judge the poor, and reprove with equity for the meek of the earth: and he shall smite the earth with the rod of his mouth, and with the breath of his lips shall he slay the wicked. 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. 10 ¶ And in that day there shall be a root of Jesse, which shall stand for an ensign of the people; to it shall the Gentiles seek: and his rest shall be glorious. (Isaiah 11) In D&C 113, Joseph Smith was given the interpretation of this prophecy. 1 Who is the Stem of Jesse spoken of in the 1st, 2d, 3d, 4th, and 5th verses of the 11th chapter of Isaiah? 2 Verily thus saith the Lord: It is Christ. 3 What is the rod spoken of in the first verse of the 11th chapter of Isaiah, that should come of the Stem of Jesse? 4 Behold, thus saith the Lord: It is a servant in the hands of Christ, who is partly a descendant of Jesse as well as of Ephraim, or of the house of Joseph, on whom there is laid much power. 5 What is the root of Jesse spoken of in the 10th verse of the 11th chapter? 6 Behold, thus saith the Lord, it is a descendant of Jesse, as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days. (D&C 113) In Isaiah 11 there is a prophecy about the Stem, Rod, and Root of Jesse, as well as the Branch of Jesse. The Rod of Jesse is a servant of the Lord who is “partly a descendant of Jesse (the father of the ancient King David) and Ephraim, or the house of Joseph.” The Lord shall lay much power upon him. In regards to the Rod of Jesse the Branch (the Davidic Servant) grows out of his roots. The Root of Jesse a servant of the Lord who is a “descendant of Jesse (the father of the ancient King David), as well as of Joseph, unto whom rightly belongs the priesthood, and the keys of the kingdom, for an ensign, and for the gathering of my people in the last days.” The Rod of Jesse (Servant of Christ) grows out of the Stem of Jesse (Jesus Christ) and the Branch (Davidic Servant) grows out of his roots. The roots mentioned in verse 1 may be the Root of Jesse (Servant of Christ) mentioned in verse 10. The descriptions of the Rod and Root of Jesse are very similar to each other and appear to be referring to the same individual. This individual would be the Davidic Servant, “on whom there is laid much power,” who possesses the “keys of the kingdom,” and will serve as an “ensign, and for the gathering of [the Lord’s] people in the last days.” These descriptions match the descriptions of the Davidic Servant from the statement by Joseph Smith and the scriptures previously quoted. Another possibility is that this prophecy is referring to two or three servants who descend from Jesse who will play major roles in the last days gathering of Israel. Whether this prophecy is of one individual or two or three individuals, it is most definitely a prophecy of the Davidic Servant. Elias who will Restore All Things The scriptures speak of a man who will come in the last days to restore all things and gather the twelve tribes of Israel. In the scriptures this man is known as "Elias who will restore all things." 5 Behold, this is wisdom in me; wherefore, marvel not, for the hour cometh that I will drink of the fruit of the vine with you on the earth, and with Moroni, whom I have sent unto you to reveal the Book of Mormon, containing the fulness of my everlasting gospel, to whom I have committed the keys of the record of the stick of Ephraim; 6 And also with Elias, to whom I have committed the keys of bringing to pass the restoration of all things spoken by the mouth of all the holy prophets since the world began, concerning the last days; 7 And also John the son of Zacharias, which Zacharias he (Elias) visited and gave promise that he should have a son, and his name should be John, and he should be filled with the spirit of Elias; 8 Which John I have sent unto you, my servants, Joseph Smith, Jun., and Oliver Cowdery, to ordain you unto the first priesthood which you have received, that you might be called and ordained even as Aaron; 9 And also Elijah, unto whom I have committed the keys of the power of turning the hearts of the fathers to the children, and the hearts of the children to the fathers, that the whole earth may not be smitten with a curse; 10 And also with Joseph and Jacob, and Isaac, and Abraham, your fathers, by whom the promises remain; 11 And also with Michael, or Adam, the father of all, the prince of all, the ancient of days; 12 And also with Peter, and James, and John, whom I have sent unto you, by whom I have ordained you and confirmed you to be apostles, and especial witnesses of my name, and bear the keys of your ministry and of the same things which I revealed unto them; 13 Unto whom I have committed the keys of my kingdom, and a dispensation of the gospel for the last times; and for the fulness of times, in the which I will gather together in one all things, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; 14 And also with all those whom my Father hath given me out of the world. (D&C 27) These verses from D&C 27 are some of the most important verses about Elias who will restore all things. In these verses Jesus Christ lists some of the individuals who will drink of the fruit of the vine with him on earth when the hour has come. This hour is obviously a future day and is very likely referring to the millennium. These verses identify Elias as a person and not as the fulness of the gospel or the everlasting covenant, which could otherwise be a possible identification for Elias. These verses also make it clear that Elias is a single person and not a composite individual made up of various men. The list of individuals who will drink of the fruit of the vine with Christ in a future day is also important, because it tells us who Elias is not. According to this list, Elias who will restore all things is not Joseph Smith, Oliver Cowdery, Moroni, John the Baptist, Zacharias, Elijah, Joseph, Jacob, Isaac, Abraham, Michael (Adam), Peter, James, or John. The reason none of these men can be Elias who will restore all things is because they will all be there with Elias. We cannot reasonably expect that Elias will be sitting down drinking with his other personality. Another valuable truth from D&C 27 about Elias who will restore all things is that he, Elias, was the one who appeared to Zacharias, the father of John the Baptist, telling him about the birth of John the Baptist. It’s also interesting that D&C 27 states that John the Baptist would be “filled with the spirit of Elias.” John the Baptist was referred to as Elias in the New Testament. D&C 27 appears to affirm that John the Baptist and his mission to prepare the way for the Lord’s mortal ministry was one fulfillment of the prophecy of Elias as the forerunner of the Lord found in Malachi 3:1-3 and other places. Back to the statement from D&C 27 that Elias appeared to Zacharias to tell him about the birth of John the Baptist. Luke 1:5-19 states that the angel Gabriel was the one who appeared to Zacharias. This would mean that the angel Gabriel and Elias are the same individual. This makes a lot of sense since an angel named Gabriel also appeared to the prophet Daniel, giving him information about the last days. See Daniel 9:20-27. Who better to provide Daniel with information about the last days, than the last days Elias who will restore all things? There are two passages from the Book of Revelation which according to D&C 77 refer to Elias who will restore all things. 2 And I saw another angel ascending from the east, having the seal of the living God: and he cried with a loud voice to the four angels, to whom it was given to hurt the earth and the sea, 3 Saying, Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. 4 And I heard the number of them which were sealed: and there were sealed an hundred and forty and four thousand of all the tribes of the children of Israel. (Revelation 7) 9 Q. What are we to understand by the angel ascending from the east, Revelation 7th chapter and 2nd verse? A. We are to understand that the angel ascending from the east is he to whom is given the seal of the living God over the twelve tribes of Israel; wherefore, he crieth unto the four angels having the everlasting gospel, saying: Hurt not the earth, neither the sea, nor the trees, till we have sealed the servants of our God in their foreheads. And, if you will receive it, this is Elias which was to come to gather together the tribes of Israel and restore all things. (D&C 77) These verses establish that the angel ascending from the east, which John the Revelator saw in his marvelous vision of the last days, is Elias who will restore all things. While these verses do not tell us who Elias is, they do tell us a little about him and his mission. Elias has the seal of the living God over the twelve tribes of Israel. He also has power or authority over the four angels who will bring terrible plagues upon the earth prior to the millennium. He will command these angels to wait to pour out their plagues until the 144,000 high priests from the 12 tribes of Israel have been sealed. Elias will come and gather together the tribes of Israel and restore all things. We know from multiple scriptures that the 12 tribes of Israel will ultimately be gathered to Zion the New Jerusalem. This identifies Elias as being the one who will lead this final gathering prior to the millennium. 1 And I saw another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: 2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, 3 And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices. 4 And when the seven thunders had uttered their voices, I was about to write: and I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Seal up those things which the seven thunders uttered, and write them not. 5 And the angel which I saw stand upon the sea and upon the earth lifted up his hand to heaven, 6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: 7 But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets. 8 And the voice which I heard from heaven spake unto me again, and said, Go and take the little book which is open in the hand of the angel which standeth upon the sea and upon the earth. 9 And I went unto the angel, and said unto him, Give me the little book. And he said unto me, Take it, and eat it up; and it shall make thy belly bitter, but it shall be in thy mouth sweet as honey. 10 And I took the little book out of the angel’s hand, and ate it up; and it was in my mouth sweet as honey: and as soon as I had eaten it, my belly was bitter. 11 And he said unto me, Thou must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings. (Revelation 10) 14 Q. What are we to understand by the little book which was eaten by John, as mentioned in the 10th chapter of Revelation? A. We are to understand that it was a mission, and an ordinance, for him to gather the tribes of Israel; behold, this is Elias, who, as it is written, must come and restore all things. (D&C 77) Based on this verses, many people believe that John the Revelator is Elias who will restore all things. John is given a little book by an angel. He eats the book and it makes his belly bitter. He is told that he must prophesy again before many peoples, and nations, and tongues, and kings.” Joseph Smith asked what the little book meant which John ate. He was given the answer that the little book was “a mission, and an ordinance, for him to gather the tribes of Israel; behold, this is Elias, who, as it is written, must come and restore all things.” On the surface it looks like this single verse has identified John as Elias who will restore all things, however Joseph Smith’s question was not about John, but rather about the book he ate. Therefore the book represents Elias and not John. It appears that the book is a mission or ordinance from Elias to John. John is being given a little mission, hence the little book, to prophesy again in the very last days. His work is not done and he will play a crucial role in the final gathering of Israel and restoration of all things under the authority of Elias. This is not a mission John has wished for, and the call to perform this mission makes him sick to his stomach. He will likely have to suffer persecution while fulfilling this mission as he had to suffer during his ministry during Christ’s day and in the decades that followed. We can also conclude that John is not Elias, because the angel ascending from the east is Elias. John saw this angel. He did not state that he saw himself. It really would not make much sense that John would see himself in the first place. Unless he didn't recognize himself, to not to state that he saw himself, but rather an angel ascending from the east would be very strange. Then when we look at the description of the angel who gave John the little book, representing a last day’s mission for him, we can see that this angel is very likely Elias. John stated that he saw, “another mighty angel come down from heaven, clothed with a cloud: and a rainbow was upon his head, and his face was as it were the sun, and his feet as pillars of fire: And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and his left foot on the earth, And cried with a loud voice, as when a lion roareth: and when he had cried, seven thunders uttered their voices.” The angel who gave John the little book was clothed with a cloud, had a rainbow upon his head, his face was as the sun, and his feet were as pillars of fire. His voice roared as a lion and seven thunders uttered when he cried. The description of the angel seems to fit perfectly with the description of the angel ascending from the east. This is a very powerful angel with a tremendous amount of authority from God. It seems very likely then that this angel and Elias are one and the same. Within the four gospels in the New Testament there are a few references and explanations about Elias who will restore all things. In his inspired translation or revision of the Bible, Joseph Smith gave us further clarity on these particular references to Elias who will restore all things, which we otherwise wouldn't have. In the first chapter of the gospel of John, John the Baptist is asked who he is and if he is Elias. 20 And this is the record of John, when the Jews sent priests and Levites from Jerusalem, to ask him; Who art thou? 21 And he confessed, and denied not that he was Elias; but confessed, saying; I am not the Christ. 22 And they asked him, saying; How then art thou Elias? And he said, I am not that Elias who was to restore all things. And they asked him, saying, Art thou that prophet? And he answered, No. 23 Then said they unto him, Who art thou? that we may give an answer to them that sent us. What sayest thou of thyself? 24 He said, I am the voice of one crying in the wilderness, Make straight the way of the Lord, as saith the prophet Esaias. 25 And they who were sent were of the Pharisees. 26 And they asked him, and said unto him; Why baptizest thou then, if thou be not the Christ, nor Elias who was to restore all things, neither that prophet? 27 John answered them, saying; I baptize with water, but there standeth one among you, whom ye know not; 28 He it is of whom I bear record. He is that prophet, even Elias, who, coming after me, is preferred before me, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose, or whose place I am not able to fill; for he shall baptize, not only with water, but with fire, and with the Holy Ghost. 29 The next day John seeth Jesus coming unto him, and said; Behold the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sin of the world! 30 And John bare record of him unto the people, saying, This is he of whom I said; After me cometh a man who is preferred before me; for he was before me, and I knew him, and that he should be made manifest to Israel; therefore am I come baptizing with water. (JST John 1) From these verses we can see that John the Baptist was an Elias, as he prepared the way for the mission of the Savior. He was not however the Elias who will restore all things or that prophet. If we only had these verses we might conclude that John the Baptist was saying that Jesus Christ is Elias who will restore all things. The Jews appeared to understand that the prophecy of Elias was a prophecy with at least two fulfillments, as they asked John if he was "Elias who will restore all things" or "that prophet." John the Baptist confessed that he was Elias, but denied being either of the two prophets the Jews were referring to. He then told them that Jesus was the Elias they should be looking for at that time. So Jesus is also an Elias, and quite possibly "that prophet." In the account in Matthew of the mount of transfiguration, it is made clear that Jesus was not fulfilling the role of Elias who will restore all things, but that this prophecy was of another man in the future. 1 And after six days, Jesus taketh Peter, James, and John, his brother, and bringeth them up into a high mountain, apart, and was transfigured before them; and his face did shine as the sun, and his raiment was white as the light. 2 And, behold, there appeared unto them Moses and Elias, talking with him. 3 Then answered Peter and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here; if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles: one for thee, one for Moses, and one for Elias. 4 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them; and, behold, a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him. 5 And when the disciples heard the voice, they fell on their faces and were sore afraid. 6 And Jesus came, and touched them, and said, Arise, and be not afraid. 7 And when they had lifted up their eyes, they saw no man, save Jesus only. 8 And as they came down from the mountain, Jesus charged them, saying, Tell the vision to no man until the Son of Man be risen again from the dead. 9 And his disciples asked him, saying, Why then say the scribes that Elias must first come? 10 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Elias truly shall first come and restore all things, as the prophets have written. 11 And again I say unto you that Elias has come already, concerning whom it is written, Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me; and they knew him not and have done unto him whatsoever they listed. 12 Likewise shall also the Son of Man suffer of them. 13 But I say unto you, Who is Elias? Behold, this is Elias, whom I send to prepare the way before me. 14 Then the disciples understood that he spake unto them of John the Baptist, and also of another, who should come and restore all things, as it is written by the prophets. (JST Matthew 17) From this account we learn that Elias is a title given by the Lord for those he sends to prepare the way before him. The disciples then recognized that he spake of "John the Baptist, and also of another, who should come and restore all things." The fact that the Lord is speaking of the Elias who was to prepare the way for His mortal ministry (John the Baptist) and Elias who will restore all things is given further meaning when we realize that the Elias who appeared at the mount of transfiguration, was none other than John the Baptist, who had recently been slain by Herod. This is made clear in the account of the mount of transfiguration in the Joseph Smith translation of Mark. 1 And after six days Jesus taketh Peter, and James, and John, who asked him many questions concerning his sayings; and Jesus leadeth them up into a high mountain apart by themselves. And he was transfigured before them. 2 And his raiment became shining, exceeding white as snow, so white as no fuller on earth could whiten them. 3 And there appeared unto them Elias with Moses, or in other words, John the Baptist and Moses; and they were talking with Jesus. 4 And Peter answered and said to Jesus, Master, it is good for us to be here; and let us make three tabernacles: one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias; for he knew not what to say; for they were sore afraid. 5 And there was a cloud that overshadowed them; and a voice came out of the cloud, saying, This is my beloved Son; hear him. 6 And suddenly, when they had looked round about with great astonishment, they saw no man any more, save Jesus only, with themselves. And immediately they departed. 7 And as they came down from the mountain, he charged them that they should tell no man what things they had seen till the Son of Man was risen from the dead. 8 And they kept that saying with themselves, questioning one with another what the rising from the dead should mean. 9 And they asked him, saying, Why say the scribes that Elias must first come? 10 And he answered and told them, saying, Elias verily cometh first, and prepareth all things, and teacheth you of the prophets, how it is written of the Son of Man, that he must suffer many things and be set at naught. 11 Again I say unto you that Elias is indeed come; but they have done unto him whatsoever they listed, and even as it is written of him. And he bore record of me, and they received him not. Verily, this was Elias. (JST Mark 9) One Mighty and Strong 6 Yea, thus saith the still small voice, which whispereth through and pierceth all things, and often times it maketh my bones to quake while it maketh manifest, saying: 7 And it shall come to pass that I, the Lord God, will send one mighty and strong, holding the scepter of power in his hand, clothed with light for a covering, whose mouth shall utter words, eternal words; while his bowels shall be a fountain of truth, to set in order the house of God, and to arrange by lot the inheritances of the saints whose names are found, and the names of their fathers, and of their children, enrolled in the book of the law of God; 8 While that man, who was called of God and appointed, that putteth forth his hand to steady the bark of God, shall fall by the shaft of death, like as a tree that is smitten by the vivid shaft of lightning. 9 And all they who are not found written in the book of remembrance shall find none inheritance in that day, but they shall be cut asunder, and their portion shall be appointed them among unbelievers, where are wailing and gnashing of teeth. 10 These things I say not of myself; therefore, as the Lord speaketh, he will also fulfil. (D&C 85) The Marred Servant In Isaiah 52 and in his visit to the Nephites, Jesus Christ spoke of a last day's servant who would be marred and healed. Through his marring this servant would sprinkle many nations and kings would shut their mouths at him. His mission is directly connected with the Great and Marvelous work in the last days and the restoration of the house of Israel. He would also deliver God’s word to the gentiles in the last days. 13 ¶ Behold, my servant shall deal prudently, he shall be exalted and extolled, and be very high. 14 As many were astonied at thee; his visage was so marred more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men: 15 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him: for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. (Isaiah 52) 43 Behold, my servant shall deal prudently; he shall be exalted and extolled and be very high. 44 As many were astonished at thee—his visage was so marred, more than any man, and his form more than the sons of men— 45 So shall he sprinkle many nations; the kings shall shut their mouths at him, for that which had not been told them shall they see; and that which they had not heard shall they consider. 46 Verily, verily, I say unto you, all these things shall surely come, even as the Father hath commanded me. Then shall this covenant which the Father hath covenanted with his people be fulfilled; and then shall Jerusalem be inhabited again with my people, and it shall be the land of their inheritance. (3 Nephi 20) 9 For in that day, for my sake shall the Father work a work, which shall be a great and a marvelous work among them; and there shall be among them those who will not believe it, although a man shall declare it unto them. 10 But behold, the life of my servant shall be in my hand; therefore they shall not hurt him, although he shall be marred because of them. Yet I will heal him, for I will show unto them that my wisdom is greater than the cunning of the devil. 11 Therefore it shall come to pass that whosoever will not believe in my words, who am Jesus Christ, which the Father shall cause him to bring forth unto the Gentiles, and shall give unto him power that he shall bring them forth unto the Gentiles, (it shall be done even as Moses said) they shall be cut off from among my people who are of the covenant. (3 Nephi 21) Angel of the Lord's Presence Isaiah 63 and D&C 133 identify an individual referred to as the “Angel of the Lord’s Presence,” through whom the Lord saved his people in ancient times. Other scriptures suggest that this angel will be returning for a last days’ mission. ¶ I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses. 8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour. 9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his pity he redeemed them; and he bare them, and carried them all the days of old. (Isaiah 63) 52 And now the year of my redeemed is come; and they shall mention the loving kindness of their Lord, and all that he has bestowed upon them according to his goodness, and according to his loving kindness, forever and ever. 53 In all their afflictions he was afflicted. And the angel of his presence saved them; and in his love, and in his pity, he redeemed them, and bore them, and carried them all the days of old; (D&C 133) In the famous allegory of the olive trees found in Jacob 5, a servant of the Lord, who works alongside the Lord, is mentioned repeatedly throughout the allegory. He labors with the house of Israel from the beginning all the way to the final gathering and restoration of all 12 tribes of Israel. He is mentioned 32 times in the allegory. It appears that this servant is none other than the Angel of the Lord’s Presence mentioned in Isaiah 63 and D&C 133. There are more scriptures about this servant, such as the parable of the redemption of Zion found in D&C 101 or the references to a prophet like unto Moses in the Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, and D&C. Now that I have thoroughly documented the coming of this Last Day's Servant of the Lord, I have two questions for all of you: 1) Do you accept these scriptures about this coming servant? 2) Why does the church not speak of the coming of this great prophet?
JLHPROF Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) I'll have to review this very lengthy post but I will say the Elias of D&C 27 who appeared to Zacharias is Noah (Gabriel). And once again you appear to be attempting to merge multiple people and prophecies into one person. Edited January 31, 2021 by JLHPROF 1
LDS Watchman Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 1 minute ago, JLHPROF said: I'll have to review this very lengthy post but I will say the Elias of D&C 27 who appeared to Zacharias is Noah (Gabriel). Noah is not Gabriel. Either Joseph Smith was misquoted on that one or he was simply mistaken. Elias who will restore all things is not Noah. Noah doesn't fit the profile one bit. 5 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: And once again you appear to be attempting to merge multiple people and prophecies into one person. I don't think I'm doing this it all. I acknowledge that there could be a couple of different last days servants. But if you look at these prophecies the mission in each one appears to be the same. Look particularly at the Davidic Servant prophecies. The Lord said he is going to set up ONE shepherd over his people, not multiple shepherds.
JLHPROF Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, LDS Watchman said: Noah is not Gabriel. Either Joseph Smith was misquoted on that one or he was simply mistaken. Elias who will restore all things is not Noah. Noah doesn't fit the profile one bit. I'll take Joseph's word over yours. Especially since he is the one mighty and strong according to D&C 90. Edited January 31, 2021 by JLHPROF Fix section number.
Popular Post JLHPROF Posted January 31, 2021 Popular Post Posted January 31, 2021 36 minutes ago, LDS Watchman said: 1) Do you accept these scriptures about this coming servant? 2) Why does the church not speak of the coming of this great prophet? 1) Yes I accept these scriptures but not your completely wrong interpretation of them. 2) Because this theory is false doctrine and flatly contradicts established truth. The very idea of another restoration of all things means a new dispensation. Joseph was the last restorer of the gospel to the earth. 5
LDS Watchman Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 21 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: I'll take Joseph's word over yours. Especially since he is the one mighty and strong according to D&C 93. Joseph could be the One Mighty Strong. I never said he couldn't be. Not sure how D&C 93 proves this. You'll have to break down your logic there. I think the statement that Noah is Gabriel was a misquote. But assuming that Joseph Smith actually did say this and Gabriel is Noah, how does that impact the many other prophecies about the coming last days servant?
LDS Watchman Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: 1) Yes I accept these scriptures but not your completely wrong interpretation of them. I provided very little interpretation. I mostly just quoted scripture and restated a few things. Perhaps you can provide the "correct" interpretation of these scriptures for me since you're so sure these scriptures don't mean what they appear to. 31 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Because this theory is false doctrine and flatly contradicts established truth. The very idea of another restoration of all things means a new dispensation. Joseph was the last restorer of the gospel to the earth. Source please? How does this "theory," which is essentially straight from the scriptures, "flatly contradict established truth?" Also, can you please show me where I said that there would be "another restoration of all things" and a "new dispensation?" I never said either of these things. Also where is it written that "Joseph was the last restorer of the gospel to the earth?" Edited January 31, 2021 by LDS Watchman
JLHPROF Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 1 hour ago, LDS Watchman said: Joseph could be the One Mighty Strong. I never said he couldn't be. Not sure how D&C 93 proves this. You'll have to break down your logic there. I think the statement that Noah is Gabriel was a misquote. But assuming that Joseph Smith actually did say this and Gabriel is Noah, how does that impact the many other prophecies about the coming last days servant? Also, can you please show me where I said that there would be "another restoration of all things" and a "new dispensation?" 1. My apologies, I meant D&C 90. Which I already did https://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/73445-thoughts-on-dc-1/?do=findComment&comment=1210008759 2. Noah as Gabriel is not a misquote. There are three contemporary records if this address and all list it. The Elias of D&C 27 is Noah according to Joseph who received the revelation. 3. Here is where you falsely state a new restoration will occur. This scripture refers to the restoration through the prophet Joseph who was already visited by this Elias in the Kirtland Temple. 59 minutes ago, LDS Watchman said: 59 minutes ago, LDS Watchman said: How does this "theory," which is essentially straight from the scriptures, "flatly contradict established truth?" Also where is it written that "Joseph was the last restorer of the gospel to the earth?" 4. The gospel and priesthood keys were restored to the earth through the prophet Joseph. There are literally dozens of quotes on this. I can't do that much copy and paste on my phone. Maybe I'll revisit them in the morning. Any idea of a new prophet supplanting his role is directly contradicting the gospel. I'm not going to debate you verse by verse. The Davidic servant prophecy is true and probably relates to the Jews. The One Mighty and Strong revelation is true and relates to Joseph Smith (as probably does the marred servant). The Elias revelation is true and relates to Noah and the Kirtland Temple. The only one of your groupings that predicts a future ruler is the Davidic servant named David. And that prophecy should not be confused with the others you list. There will not be a new restoration of all things. There will not be a new dispensation of authority from heaven. This final dispensation remains under Joseph's authority and he will set it in order and turn it over to Christ along with the other heads and their dispensations at Adam Ondi Ajman. Nobody else gets to supplant him. 2
LDS Watchman Posted January 31, 2021 Author Posted January 31, 2021 8 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Noah as Gabriel is not a misquote. There are three contemporary records if this address and all list it. The Elias of D&C 27 is Noah according to Joseph who received the revelation. I was just looking into this quote a moment ago, and you are right that it appears Joseph Smith did say this. It's worth noting that Joseph's statement does not definitely declare that Noah is the same Gabriel who appeared to Zacharias, however. Gabriel could be a title with multiple applications. Either way it doesn't really effect the prophecies of a coming last day's servant. 15 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Here is where you falsely state a new restoration will occur. I never stated that a new restoration will occur. You are making incorrect assumptions about what I stated. 30 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: This scripture refers to the restoration through the prophet Joseph who was already visited by this Elias in the Kirtland Temple. I don't think it does. The account in D&C 110 says nothing of this Elias restoring any keys to the restoration of all things or to the gathering of Israel. It doesn't even remotely match the description of what the angel ascending from the east will do as described in Revelation and D&C 77 in any way, shape, or form. But it is possible that Joseph Smith is this Elias. In which case he would have to return to fulfill his mission. 34 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: The gospel and priesthood keys were restored to the earth through the prophet Joseph. There are literally dozens of quotes on this. Of course the priesthood keys were restored to Joseph Smith, but this doesn't answer my question of where in the scriptures it says that Joseph Smith is the last restorer of the gospel? 37 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: Any idea of a new prophet supplanting his role is directly contradicting the gospel. Yeah you keep saying this without backing it up with any scriptures. Nowhere in the scriptures does it say that another prophet can't finish the work Joseph started. At least I'm not aware of such a scripture. 42 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: The Davidic servant prophecy is true and probably relates to the Jews. It doesn't just relate to the Jews. It relates to the whole house of Israel. Read those scriptures about him I quoted again. He will be made the shepherd and king of all of Israel. He will also gather Israel, which just happens to be the same job of Elias who will restore all things (angel ascending from the East). 46 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: The One Mighty and Strong revelation is true and relates to Joseph Smith (as probably does the marred servant). This is possible, but only if a returning Joseph Smith is also the Davidic Servant. 48 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: The only one of your groupings that predicts a future ruler is the Davidic servant named David. And that prophecy should not be confused with the others you list. Not true. The Davidic Servant and the Branch servant are clearly both speaking of the same future ruler over the entire house of Israel. The One Mighty and Strong also holds a scepter, suggesting rule as well. All of these prophecies or of a servant who will gather Israel and be their leader, which is the same mission given to Elias who will restore all things and to the marred servant. Then there's also the servant from Jacob 5, who is clearly the angel of the Lord's presence. 58 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: There will not be a new restoration of all things. There will not be a new dispensation of authority from heaven. This final dispensation remains under Joseph's authority Once again, I never said there would be a new restoration of all things or a new dispensation. Joseph opened the last dispensation and through him the foundation was laid for the restoration of all things and the great and marvelous last days work. There is no doubt that he will be returning to play a key role in the conclusion of the final dispensation and restoration of all things, but to my knowledge nowhere in scripture was Joseph given blanket authority over the entire final dispensation. 1 hour ago, JLHPROF said: he will set it in order and turn it over to Christ along with the other heads and their dispensations at Adam Ondi Ajman. Nobody else gets to supplant him. Perhaps, perhaps not. Joseph is certainly a candidate for returning and setting in order the Lord's house, but he's not the only possibility. The Holy Ghost being born into mortality and fulfilling this role is a very strong possibility as well. And the authority of a member of the Godhead would absolutely supplant that of Joseph Smith. There are other possibilities as well, including John the Beloved. But assuming that you are right and Joseph Smith turns out to be the Davidic Servant/One Mighty and Strong, the church still doesn't mention these prophecies. And they don't mention them not because they are false doctrine and go against revealed truth, as you tried to claim, but rather because the implications are really, really bad for the church, especially for the brethren. It means the current shepherds of Israel are leading the members astray and will be replaced the Davidic Servant (Joseph Smith or whoever).
CV75 Posted January 31, 2021 Posted January 31, 2021 I've always wondered what it would be like to have a servant, maybe some who has a cross of skills between Afanasii Ziukin and Alfred Pennyworth.
Robert F. Smith Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 20 hours ago, LDS Watchman said: Here's a little something I've been working on. It's not finished, but here is a compilation of scriptures about the coming Last Day's Servant of the Lord who will set the Lord's house in order, gather Israel, and redeem Zion. It's pretty long, but I wanted to document just how many scriptures speak of this coming servant and his mission. ....................................... Rather than present long lists of Scriptures, you might want to actually discuss the points you are trying to make. In so doing, you might want to examine the attitude of Israeli Jews who consider themselves watchmen, and who are believers in Jesus as the Messiah. Note in particular the opening prayer: Listen to this at 1.25 speed. Edited February 1, 2021 by Robert F. Smith 1
LDS Watchman Posted February 1, 2021 Author Posted February 1, 2021 48 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said: Rather than present long lists of Scriptures, you might want to actually discuss the points you are trying to make. Don't worry. I plan to discuss these last days prophecies in more depth in future posts. This post was merely laying the groundwork for future discussions by presenting many of the scriptures which document that a Last Day's Servant is coming to prepare the way for the Lord's second coming. In the meantime do you care to answer the two questions I posed at the end of the OP?
Robert F. Smith Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 21 hours ago, LDS Watchman said: ................................................. There are more scriptures about this servant, such as the parable of the redemption of Zion found in D&C 101 or the references to a prophet like unto Moses in the Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, and D&C. Who is the "prophet like unto Moses"? Is there only one? Is there more than one? 21 hours ago, LDS Watchman said: Now that I have thoroughly documented the coming of this Last Day's Servant of the Lord, I have two questions for all of you: 1) Do you accept these scriptures about this coming servant? 2) Why does the church not speak of the coming of this great prophet? You need to learn how to present your evidence, discuss it adequately, and reply to those who have already commented in this thread. You have not yet done any of that. Indeed, in the broadcast which I cited for you, the two participants quoted from several scriptures (which were displayed to be read also), and commented on them. You might try doing likewise. 3
LDS Watchman Posted February 1, 2021 Author Posted February 1, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: You need to learn how to present your evidence, discuss it adequately, and reply to those who have already commented in this thread. You have not yet done any of that. Indeed, in the broadcast which I cited for you, the two participants quoted from several scriptures (which were displayed to be read also), and commented on them. You might try doing likewise. Robert, why are you being so hostile? I know how to present evidence and discuss it adequately. I did provide some commentary, but it was quite limited. As I stated the OP was intended to lay the foundation for future in depth discussions about the coming last day's servant. I wanted the scriptures to speak for themselves, lest people (such as JLHPROF or Incognitus) accuse me of making things up or trying to teach something contrary to the word of God. And for the record I have replied to each serious comment on this thread with a thoughtful response. But since you are dissatisfied with the level in which I discussed these scriptures, I would ask you to stay tuned. I intend to break them down in depth and thoroughly discuss the implications they have on the present state of the church. 2 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: Who is the "prophet like unto Moses"? Is there only one? Is there more than one? 1) One fulfillment of this prophecy is Jesus Christ. This is according to the Book of Mormon. (See 3 Nephi 20:23-25 and 1 Nephi 21:20-21). 2) Another fulfilment of this prophecy appears to be Joseph Smith. 7 Yea, Joseph truly said: Thus saith the Lord unto me: A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins. And unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren, which shall be of great worth unto them, even to the bringing of them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers. 8 And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him. And I will make him great in mine eyes; for he shall do my work. 9 And he shall be great like unto Moses, whom I have said I would raise up unto you, to deliver my people, O house of Israel. 11 But a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins—and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them. 12 Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins shall write; and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together, unto the confounding of false doctrines and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to the knowledge of their fathers in the latter days, and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord. 13 And out of weakness he shall be made strong, in that day when my work shall commence among all my people, unto the restoring thee, O house of Israel, saith the Lord. 14 And thus prophesied Joseph, saying: Behold, that seer will the Lord bless; and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise, which I have obtained of the Lord, of the fruit of my loins, shall be fulfilled. Behold, I am sure of the fulfilling of this promise; 15 And his name shall be called after me; and it shall be after the name of his father. And he shall be like unto me; for the thing, which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand, by the power of the Lord shall bring my people unto salvation. (2 Nephi 3) This is clearly a prophecy of Joseph Smith and the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. In verse 9, it says that "he [Joseph Smith] shall be great like unto Moses." There are a couple of additional witnesses that Joseph Smith is a fulfillment of this prophecy, such as this declaration by the Lord about Joseph Smith: 2 But, behold, verily, verily, I say unto thee, no one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this church excepting my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., for he receiveth them even as Moses. (D&C 28) And finally, this declaration of the Lord makes it clear that the prophecy of "one like unto Moses" would be fulfilled by a last day's servant. 15 Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power; 16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel. 17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm. 18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be. 19 Therefore, let not your hearts faint, for I say not unto you as I said unto your fathers: Mine angel shall go up before you, but not my presence. 20 But I say unto you: Mine angels shall go up before you, and also my presence, and in time ye shall possess the goodly land. 21 Verily, verily I say unto you, that my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., is the man to whom I likened the servant to whom the Lord of the vineyard spake in the parable which I have given unto you. (D&C 103) While the Lord does not definitively say that Joseph Smith will be the man whom he will raise up to lead the people like unto Moses and redeem Zion, it is strongly implied, because Joseph Smith is the servant from the parable of the redemption of Zion from D&C 101. Since Zion was not redeemed (nor the sealed portion of the golden plates brought forth), either Joseph Smith will have to return and finish his mission as the "one like unto Moses" or another last day's servant will have to be sent forth to finish the job. It is certain that Joseph's mission is not finished. His two patriarchal blessings, among other evidences, make it clear that he will be returning. 3) Based on the description of the Davidic Servant, he is clearly a fulfilment of the "one like unto Moses" prophecy. Joseph Smith may be the Davidic Servant or he if he isn't he will be working under the direction of the Davidic Servant when he returns. Either way, a mighty last day's servant of the Lord is coming soon to set in order the house of God, gather the tribes of Israel, and redeem Zion. I will discuss this in more detail in a future post. Edited February 1, 2021 by LDS Watchman 1
Robert F. Smith Posted February 1, 2021 Posted February 1, 2021 4 hours ago, LDS Watchman said: Robert, why are you being so hostile? I know how to present evidence and discuss it adequately. I did provide some commentary, but it was quite limited. As I stated the OP was intended to lay the foundation for future in depth discussions about the coming last day's servant. I wanted the scriptures to speak for themselves, lest people (such as JLHPROF or Incognitus) accuse me of making things up or trying to teach something contrary to the word of God. And for the record I have replied to each serious comment on this thread with a thoughtful response. But since you are dissatisfied with the level in which I discussed these scriptures, I would ask you to stay tuned. I intend to break them down in depth and thoroughly discuss the implications they have on the present state of the church. 1) One fulfillment of this prophecy is Jesus Christ. This is according to the Book of Mormon. (See 3 Nephi 20:23-25 and 1 Nephi 21:20-21). 2) Another fulfilment of this prophecy appears to be Joseph Smith. 7 Yea, Joseph truly said: Thus saith the Lord unto me: A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins. And unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren, which shall be of great worth unto them, even to the bringing of them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers. 8 And I will give unto him a commandment that he shall do none other work, save the work which I shall command him. And I will make him great in mine eyes; for he shall do my work. 9 And he shall be great like unto Moses, whom I have said I would raise up unto you, to deliver my people, O house of Israel. 11 But a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins—and not to the bringing forth my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them. 12 Wherefore, the fruit of thy loins shall write; and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together, unto the confounding of false doctrines and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to the knowledge of their fathers in the latter days, and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord. 13 And out of weakness he shall be made strong, in that day when my work shall commence among all my people, unto the restoring thee, O house of Israel, saith the Lord. 14 And thus prophesied Joseph, saying: Behold, that seer will the Lord bless; and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise, which I have obtained of the Lord, of the fruit of my loins, shall be fulfilled. Behold, I am sure of the fulfilling of this promise; 15 And his name shall be called after me; and it shall be after the name of his father. And he shall be like unto me; for the thing, which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand, by the power of the Lord shall bring my people unto salvation. (2 Nephi 3) This is clearly a prophecy of Joseph Smith and the coming forth of the Book of Mormon. In verse 9, it says that "he [Joseph Smith] shall be great like unto Moses." There are a couple of additional witnesses that Joseph Smith is a fulfillment of this prophecy, such as this declaration by the Lord about Joseph Smith: 2 But, behold, verily, verily, I say unto thee, no one shall be appointed to receive commandments and revelations in this church excepting my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., for he receiveth them even as Moses. (D&C 28) And finally, this declaration of the Lord makes it clear that the prophecy of "one like unto Moses" would be fulfilled by a last day's servant. 15 Behold, I say unto you, the redemption of Zion must needs come by power; 16 Therefore, I will raise up unto my people a man, who shall lead them like as Moses led the children of Israel. 17 For ye are the children of Israel, and of the seed of Abraham, and ye must needs be led out of bondage by power, and with a stretched-out arm. 18 And as your fathers were led at the first, even so shall the redemption of Zion be. 19 Therefore, let not your hearts faint, for I say not unto you as I said unto your fathers: Mine angel shall go up before you, but not my presence. 20 But I say unto you: Mine angels shall go up before you, and also my presence, and in time ye shall possess the goodly land. 21 Verily, verily I say unto you, that my servant Joseph Smith, Jun., is the man to whom I likened the servant to whom the Lord of the vineyard spake in the parable which I have given unto you. (D&C 103) While the Lord does not definitively say that Joseph Smith will be the man whom he will raise up to lead the people like unto Moses and redeem Zion, it is strongly implied, because Joseph Smith is the servant from the parable of the redemption of Zion from D&C 101. Since Zion was not redeemed (nor the sealed portion of the golden plates brought forth), either Joseph Smith will have to return and finish his mission as the "one like unto Moses" or another last day's servant will have to be sent forth to finish the job. It is certain that Joseph's mission is not finished. His two patriarchal blessings, among other evidences, make it clear that he will be returning. 3) Based on the description of the Davidic Servant, he is clearly a fulfilment of the "one like unto Moses" prophecy. Joseph Smith may be the Davidic Servant or he if he isn't he will be working under the direction of the Davidic Servant when he returns. Either way, a mighty last day's servant of the Lord is coming soon to set in order the house of God, gather the tribes of Israel, and redeem Zion. I will discuss this in more detail in a future post. This is what I'm talking about. Cite some Scripture. Discuss your point of view on it. A good beginning of a discussion. Some commentators claim that any Scripture has only one application. I think you are right to suggest that a Scripture may have multiple applications. 2
Ahab Posted February 3, 2021 Posted February 3, 2021 On 1/31/2021 at 7:06 AM, CV75 said: I've always wondered what it would be like to have a servant, maybe some who has a cross of skills between Afanasii Ziukin and Alfred Pennyworth. A servant is simply someone who serves/helps someone else. If I invited you over to my house for dinner, and you came to have dinner with me and whoever else I invited to be there, I would be your servant, and my wife would probably be your servant too, the one who primarily prepared your/the dinner. I usually just serve/help her by chopping and dicing and slicing, etc, as well as primarily washing the dishes. Being a servant is not a bad thing and being a servant doesn't mean being inferior in status or importance.
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