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  1. Which particular members I believe these verses in section 1 are referring to is really not all that important. The point is that members of the church are being referred to. What matters is which members the Lord is referring to. Not what you or I think. Yes I have expressed concerns over changes to the temple ordinances and many other changes in the church, which of course have been approved by the first presidency. So what? When it comes to these changes there are only a couple of possibilities. One is that God approved of each and every change. Another is that God tolerated the chang
  2. There aren't different paths for different people. There's the straight and narrow path and few there be that find it. Those who aren't on the straight and narrow path are wandering on some forbidden path. We need to know what the straight and narrow path is. We also need to know what these forbidden paths are and the types of people who are on them, or we might end up on one of these forbidden paths without realizing it. For example, we need to know if the FLDS who follow Warren Jeffs are on the right path or not. Same goes for those who follow Denver Snuffer and a host of other L
  3. Who said anything about the the dogmas of Snuffer, Woolley, or LeBaron. Bringing these men up is a distraction from the issue at hand, which is what the word of God in the scriptures actually says. Speaking of retconning scripture to bolster preconceived conclusions, we need look no farther than what members of the church do all the time. We tend to look at every positive scripture about the last days and apply it to ourselves, because after all we are so righteous and cannot possibly go astray, right? Meanwhile we ignore or twist any and all scripture which suggests otherwise.
  4. I never said we needed to compare ourselves to others before we can know where we stand before God. You spoke of different camps and how each one think they are the good guys. It is important to see things clearly and to know which path is the correct one rather than assuming that the path one is on is the correct one.
  5. It's not just some members who have broken their covenants. Roughly 70% of the church membership is completely inactive. Of those who are active or semi active, there are varying degrees of personal righteous and commitment. It's really a pretty small minority of the church membership who are truly committed and faithful to their covenants. First of all, I never said that these verses referred to the "church collectively" or the "leadership of the church as a whole." I said that I believe that these verses are directed at members of the church. You then insisted that this was imp
  6. Yes in the scriptures sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. But when we look at prophecies of the last days, things are anything but plain, because they are couched in metaphorical language. We see this in these 4 verses in the section 1. "Arm of the Lord" is a metaphor for someone or something, just like "Babylon" is a metaphor for something. In section one the Lord commands us to search the revelations in the D&C. He commands us to search the scriptures in general on multiple occasions in the scriptures. By searching the scriptures and seeking the inspiration of the Holy Ghost we
  7. Not necessarily. The Jewish leaders in the meridian of time legitimately held the authority and keys, yet according to Joseph Smith, John the Baptist wrested those keys from them, without having first received his authority from them. Something similar could happen in the last days. I know many deluded false prophets have claimed to have done this; the most recent being Denver Snuffer, but this doesn't mean that a legitimate prophet couldn't do it. Exactly. It's very likely that both of these mighty servants of God will play a major role in the winding up scene and the sett
  8. Bingo. This is exactly what we do. And by we I mean not only active members of the church, but everyone who considers themselves to be a "Mormon" (LDS, Fundamentalists, RLDS Snufferites, etc). Which is why I kept my breakdown vanilla and didn't accuse any specific group of being the ones referred to. I simply said that I believe members of the church are being referred to. But my personal belief, based on my studies of the scriptures and my observations of the current state of the church, is that unfortunately the majority of the members are being referred to. Of course our p
  9. I don't appreciate your condescending accusatory tone. The Davidic Servant prophesied in the scriptures is not "my Davidic Servant." I'm not advocating for any self-proclaimed prophet. I'm pointing to the prophecies in the scriptures. And these prophecies will be fulfilled, whether you like it or not. It appears that these prophecies make you uncomfortable, which is why you feel the need to talk down to me and accuse me of having a nefarious agenda, instead of actually addressing what the prophecies in the scriptures say. As for your claim that the Davidic Servant must rec
  10. It is possible that the One Mighty and Strong and the Davidic Servant are not one and the same, but based on my research I believe that they are the same person. This is merely your opinion. It says that the Lord's arm will rule for him. Is this body of men holding the fulness of the priesthood going to collectively rule for him? If so what is the role of this "David" who will be king/prince over Israel in the last days? This is definitely a strong possibility. There's a good deal of evidence for this, but it's not a certainty. Looking for the last days proph
  11. In regards to the "arm of the Lord" being last days servant. Here are a two more scriptures and a statement by Joseph Smith: 10 Behold, the Lord God will come with strong hand, and his arm shall rule for him: behold, his reward is with him, and his work before him. 11 He shall feed his flock like a shepherd: he shall gather the lambs with his arm, and carry them in his bosom, and shall gently lead those that are with young. (Isaiah 40) 22 Therefore will I save my flock, and they shall no more be a prey; and I will judge between cattle and cattle. 23 And I will set up one s
  12. I believe the Lord's arm was the angel of his presence who appeared to Moses in the burning bush. 1 Now Moses kept the flock of Jethro his father in law, the priest of Midian: and he led the flock to the backside of the desert, and came to the mountain of God, even to Horeb. 2 And the angel of the Lord appeared unto him in a flame of fire out of the midst of a bush: and he looked, and, behold, the bush burned with fire, and the bush was not consumed. (Exodus 3)
  13. The Lord (Jehovah) did not perform these miracles himself. The angel of his presence did. 7 ¶ I will mention the lovingkindnesses of the Lord, and the praises of the Lord, according to all that the Lord hath bestowed on us, and the great goodness toward the house of Israel, which he hath bestowed on them according to his mercies, and according to the multitude of his lovingkindnesses. 8 For he said, Surely they are my people, children that will not lie: so he was their Saviour. 9 In all their affliction he was afflicted, and the angel of his presence saved them: in his love and in his
  14. I don't doubt that the translated John the Revelator was involved in preparing the way for the gathering of Israel in Eastern Europe. After all he received a last days mission and ordinance to gather Israel.
  15. So you believe the One Mighty and Strong is Joseph Smith who will be returning to finish his work then? If you search the prophecies about these last days "hunters of men" you will find that they are being led by someone. This someone is not God himself, but a servant who works under his direction.
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