Sexual abuse cover up in Canada

[provoman]

nvm

Edited December 25, 2019 by provoman

[Kenngo1969]

17 hours ago, Tacenda said:

Well, if the church isn't at fault, why would the church make payouts?

You've posed the same question before, and I've given a similar answer before.  I suppose there's no harm in repeating what I've already told you even if it doesn't pave any new ground.  Good faith?  The desire to compensate victims to a certain degree, even if the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as an institution bears no fault?  The desire to help victims heal, no matter who might be at fault?  Because no matter how expensive settlement might be, still, it's cheaper to settle than it is to litigate fully?

[The Nehor]

7 hours ago, Tacenda said:

https://lethbridgenewsnow.com/2019/12/17/raymond-man-found-guilty-of-sexual-assault-at-second-trial/?fbclid=IwAR3GNPZdVMV_iKR9me2POVeuOT4NrhZupbah1Yz6VEGjNF-b5KoaHYSAz7g

I want to make mention that this man became a bishop later on as most are aware, I wish he'd had some annotation put on his church record to stop him from becoming a bishop, I doubt very much someone who is gay would have been able to be one. He shouldn't have been interviewing young girls, since he at one time sexually assaulted 14 year old girls or even younger than 14, the article states. 

I am not fully convinced there was anyone who knew enough to put in an annotation. Even if they did it, to my knowledge, did not yet exist at the time of the offenses.

[Tacenda]

Why is this happening over and over and over and over. Why aren't we placing these abuses at the top of crimes that need to be stopped? I had typed a whole page only to have it disappear, maybe it wouldn't have been read because of the length. But anyone know why these crimes on babies, youth and young adults haven't been addressed. Why is p o r n of these innocents not wiped out yet? We should have more forces on these issues. Another c h i l d p o r n maker yet again recently popped up. A bishop in their ward brought it out in the open in sacrament meeting and someone recorded it on their phone. I can't post a link, so I will c/p from the article.

SALT LAKE CITY (ABC4 News) – When a case of child sexual abuse comes to light in a community or congregation, it can be challenging to talk about, but advocates say that communication is extremely important in prevention and healing. 

A viewer who is a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints sent ABC4’s Sarah Martin an audio recording of a bishop trying to explain one of these horrible cases to his Utah congregation.

ABC4 will not share the suspect’s name, the congregation, or even the city to protect the identity of the victims.

We will take a look at this case to help all of us prepare for the worst.

It could have happened in any city, community, or faith. A member was arrested and charged with possessing and creating massive quantities of child pornography. 

The congregation leader chooses to try and clear the air, “We knew at some point that this day would come and we would have to make an announcement and let you be aware of what’s going on and the facts so that there would be no speculation. The appropriate measures have been taken in a ward and a stake arena to talk to families who he was near or who associated with him and it’s been discussed with them.”

The bishop goes on to ask that the congregation not research the details of the case.

“It’s up to us to stop the speculation and the discussion, it’s not our news to discuss, it’s our burden to share and help provide an atmosphere that the family can start to heal at some point.

He offers anyone who would like more information to talk to him personally.

Prevent Child Abuse Utah says these horrible situations can be prevented and handled.

Executive Director of PCAU Laurieann Thorpe, says, “The number one thing is to talk about it, with the appropriate terms so that we’re openly addressing that there is a possibility always in any circumstance of c hild sexual abuse.”

The vast majority of abuse happens at the hands of a person known and trusted by the parents, so it’s important that when stories like this come up, parents are asking their children, “Has anything like this happened? and ask again, Has anything like this happened? And help them understand they have autonomy and can say no and can get help.”

Thorpe recommended these resources: 

• For parents and community members: Prevent Child Abuse Utah Free Training
• For parents: StopItNow
• For community and ecclesiastical leaders: Unitarian Universalist Association

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[Calm]

4 hours ago, Tacenda said:

Why is p o r n of these innocents not wiped out yet?

Are you talking about in or out of the Church?  If in, how do you suggest keeping members from accessing what is available to the rest of the world and then imitating it just like everyone else?

If the rest of the world, what level of power would you be willing to give authorities to stop this?  Can they act solely on suspicion?  Because to wipe it out, one must act before it happens (think vaccines preventing disease from taking root). 

Edited January 3, 2020 by Calm

[Tacenda]

3 hours ago, Calm said:

Are you talking about in or out of the Church?  If in, how do you suggest keeping members from accessing what is available to the rest of the world and then imitating it just like everyone else?

If the rest of the world, what level of power would you be willing to give authorities to stop this?  Can they act solely on suspicion?  Because to wipe it out, one must act before it happens (think vaccines preventing disease from taking root). 

I'm talking about those in and out of the church. The only way this can stop is if people don't watch or don't go to those websites. I wonder if we can stop the transfer of funds to pay for kiddie porn etc. Sometimes when I change my little granddaughter's diaper, she's four months old, I think of that one man that was caught trying to have sex with his baby daughter, and I get so angry. I want to murder or track these sickos and I could actually kill someone like this. And those that watch, I feel like tracking them down as well because they are the reason that this kind of porn exists. The article I c/p'd from mentions that ward member created kiddie porn, I wonder how he was able to do that. People like that man, need to be put away for forever, or put to death. 

I think we need to start a war on sex trafficking and kiddie porn. This needs to be at the top of the list.

Edited January 4, 2020 by Tacenda