Jump to content

provoman

Members
  • Posts

    1,841
  • Joined

Recent Profile Visitors

2,134 profile views

provoman's Achievements

Veteran

Veteran (13/14)

  • Reacting Well Rare
  • Very Popular Rare
  • First Post
  • Collaborator
  • Posting Machine Rare

Recent Badges

1.1k

Reputation

  1. "Do not trust to hope. It has forsaken these lands." My response would be "No, housing prices/rental prices, will not lead to lower rental prices." First, rental management companies raise their rents almost every year, without justification. I lived in a place in Utah, that was built in the 1980s. We get a notice that rent was being increased, no extra amenities, nothing extra provide, no improvements- just an arbitrary raising of rent. Someone I spoke too about a month ago got a "pay the increased rent or move", the person states when they asked why their rent was being raised they were told "Because all other rental companies are raising their rents [and it isn't fair that another rental management company makes more money than us]." Also in my experience people in Utah rent their basements for about 50% of their mortgage payment, and for whatever reason, people are willing pay an offensively high rent payment. So no I have zero reason to even "hope" rent prices /housing prices will go down in Utah. The landlords/management companies will use the farce of "supply & demand" to raise rents or to keep the rents high.
  2. Yes. Even when the first instructions were given about Sacrament meetings and Covid, the instructions did not require masks for those preparing and passing the sacrament. The current letter "asks" people to where a mask. The letter prior "urges". To the best of my knowledge my ward did not read the "urges" letter until weeks after it was distributed. So yes, if you want everyone in a LDS Church setting to wear a mask, then "thus sayeth the Lord, thou shalt" is what is needed. Or maybe someone in a leadership posistion needs to J Golden Kimball a presentation on mask.
  3. I found that interesting and funny that people specified exact reason for the religious exemption. I would have gone something like "my choices are between me and my God", and not try and give such a specific reason.
  4. Read HENNING JACOBSON, Plff. in Err., v. COMMONWEALTH OF MASSACHUSETTS. it is a good read.
  5. What has been interesting to me is that decisions were left at the local levels. While I understand people say "The D&C says Bishop have authority" or similar things, all keys come from the First Presidency; so I don't thing it an offence if the First Presidency said "thou shalt conduct your ward meetings in such manor, and will prodcast sacrament meeting" My ward, in the Salt Lake Temple District, just cancelled in person Second hour. I think our Stake Conference will be in person and prodcast. Locally, among the citizens there is so much vocal opposition. Many prents about got upset that a during a science lesson on viruses, that covid was mentioned and getting vaccines for covid was mentioned - the parents claim "Schools should teach science and not politics" (Because viral spread and vaccines are not scientific subjects, but purely politics) I think, instead of using OSHA, Congress - under the Commerce Clause - has the Constitutional Authority (from the Founders) to enact a National Mask mand on public accommodations and public schools
  6. Looking at the language of the exemption, I am not sure why people would ask a Bishop to sign anything https://www.cdph.ca.gov/Programs/CID/DCDC/Pages/COVID-19/Order-of-the-State-Public-Health-Officer-Health-Care-Worker-Vaccine-Requirement.aspx "Workers may be exempt from the vaccination requirements under section (1) only upon providing the operator of the facility a declination form, signed by the individual stating either of the following: (1) the worker is declining vaccination based on Religious Beliefs,..." So it would seem as simple as writing and signing a statement that based on religious beliefs one is declining the vaccine. Another interesting aspect is that one IS NOT required to show "my religious beliefs teach specifically against covid19 vaccines".
  7. Is there a specific form? Freedom from compulsion seems to comport with the teachings of the Church. So does personal accountability.
  8. No it is not. Exhale valve masks are essentially useless. Fake masks create a false sense of security - especially fake mask that claim a degree of efficacy.
  9. Utah, Salt Lake Temple District - when it was open.
  10. Today, the "mask & vaccinate" Fist Presidency letter was read. No second hour today. Next week second hour will be virtual. Bishop, Second Counselor are maksed, 1st Counselor is social distancing. New cases were of such a concern at neighborhood school, that the County Health Department held an all day "covid-test-a-thon". This school in my wards boundaries, but serves the whole county.
  11. I agree, and with that distinction in mind, it will be interesting if hate crime charges are sought.
  12. I do not think the leadership was wearing masks in my ward. Did not look at the next ward leadership
×
×
  • Create New...