And we thought the Church had it hard . . .

[bluebell]

2 hours ago, Rain said:

It "originates" from Arctic Circle - the article shows that it can be found elsewhere as well by different names.  On my other message board where I have been for about 20 years it was once a pretty much unknown thing except for those from Utah.  It has steadily grown to other restaurants, though with different variations.  

Yes, fry sauce was a thing when I was in high school in northern wyoming-that stuff is yummy.  I remember they would always run out of it at the MTC.  JCW and Five Guys have really good fry sauce.  I don't remember anything about Smash Burger's, but I've only eaten there once.

[Rain]

6 minutes ago, bluebell said:

Yes, fry sauce was a thing when I was in high school in northern wyoming-that stuff is yummy.  I remember they would always run out of it at the MTC.  JCW and Five Guys have really good fry sauce.  I don't remember anything about Smash Burger's, but I've only eaten there once.

  My favorite is Leatherbys.

[bluebell]

52 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

Never heard of JCW or Smashburger.

Bob's Big Boy had two layer burgers with thousand island dressing on them in the early 60s. Basically as far as I could tell thousand island dressing is exactly what fry sauce is.

And then of course the Big Mac copied that.

Ketchup mayonnaise and a little relish. No biggie.

http://bobs.net/

 

No, fry sauce is just ketchup and mayo mixed together, no relish.  Thousand Island is close, but it also has pickle relish, garlic, onions, and some vinegar in it.

[Amulek]

6 hours ago, Walden said:

I think that Dunkin Donuts is a lot like Starbucks...their product is subpar compared to the competition, but they are everywhere, so the convenience and familiarity boosts their popularity beyond the product alone.

They do seem to be everywhere in certain regions (i.e., east coast), so maybe the convenience thing is a draw for some. 

We've only got one in my town, but from where I live I can't get to it without passing at least four other places that sell better donuts, so it's a complete non-starter as far as I'm concerned.

 

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And don't get me started on the In 'n Out debate. Personally, I think it is a good burger joint...not a great burger joint, but when comparing scale, it is one of the better chain burgers.

Agree to disagree. 

The burgers are meh. The "secret menu" is dumb. And, hands down, they serve the worst fries in the industry. 

Hard pass.

 

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Their customer service, IMO, is what sets them apart from most of the competition.

I've been a few times and never been particularly impressed. 

If you want to see what good customer service from a fast food chain really looks like, I've got three words for you: EAT MOR CHIKIN!

 

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For my $, the best burger chain is The Habit, and the best coffee chain is Peet's.

For true fast food burgers, I would probably have to go with Whataburger. 

For coffee, well, you've got me on that one.  

 

[Calm]

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burgers are meh. The "secret menu" is dumb.

What is with the "secret menu"  my husband went recently and couldn't remember what he was supposed to order off menu and was not a fan of what he did order?

Seems really gimmicky if the best item on the menu isn't on the menu. 

Edited September 26, 2018 by Calm

[Walden]

1 hour ago, Calm said:

What is with the "secret menu"  my husband went recently and couldn't remember what he was supposed to order off menu and was not a fan of what he did order?

Seems really gimmicky if the best item on the menu isn't on the menu. 

It's like those secret clubs....if they weren't secret, nobody would care to join.

[bluebell]

1 hour ago, Calm said:

What is with the "secret menu"  my husband went recently and couldn't remember what he was supposed to order off menu and was not a fan of what he did order?

Seems really gimmicky if the best item on the menu isn't on the menu. 

The only secret menu I've ever ordered from is the one at Jamba Juice.  I ordered the white gummy and it was so good.  It's kind of like a starburst.  Very tasty.

[rongo]

34 minutes ago, bluebell said:

The only secret menu I've ever ordered from is the one at Jamba Juice.  I ordered the white gummy and it was so good.  It's kind of like a starburst.  Very tasty.

Do you remember Jamba's predecessor, Zuka Juice? My wife's sister worked for them when she moved to Arizona with us. Way better than Jamba. Then, when the Jamba owners bought it out, they installed a bunch of corporate cost-saving/profit-maximization measures. Ingredients are carefully measured and controlled. It became a night and day difference working for Jamba when she had worked for Zuka, and the product wasn't as good.

That said, Jamba is still pretty good.  Caribbean Passion is my favorite, but I tried a seasonal pumpkin one that was really good. 

[Amulek]

2 hours ago, Calm said:

What is with the "secret menu"  my husband went recently and couldn't remember what he was supposed to order off menu and was not a fan of what he did order?

Seems really gimmicky if the best item on the menu isn't on the menu. 

Some of the variations are posted on their website, but not all of them are. 

I suppose being knowledgeable of the so-called secret menu is supposed to make you feel like you have some kind of special, hidden, super-secret inside knowledge...or something. 

However, no amount of knowledge will change the fact that they are simply incapable of putting onion rings on your burger. And what freedom loving American wants to eat at a place where that isn't even an option?

 

[bluebell]

Just now, Amulek said:

Some of the variations are posted on their website, but not all of them are. 

I suppose being knowledgeable of the so-called secret menu is supposed to make you feel like you have some kind of special, hidden, super-secret inside knowledge...or something. 

However, no amount of knowledge will change the fact that they are simply incapable of putting onion rings on your burger. And what freedom loving American wants to eat at a place where that isn't even an option?

 

Hires in downtown SLC offers a really good burger with onion rings on it.  Very tasty!

[bluebell]

14 minutes ago, rongo said:

Do you remember Jamba's predecessor, Zuka Juice? My wife's sister worked for them when she moved to Arizona with us. Way better than Jamba. Then, when the Jamba owners bought it out, they installed a bunch of corporate cost-saving/profit-maximization measures. Ingredients are carefully measured and controlled. It became a night and day difference working for Jamba when she had worked for Zuka, and the product wasn't as good.

That said, Jamba is still pretty good.  Caribbean Passion is my favorite, but I tried a seasonal pumpkin one that was really good. 

The white gummy is the only thing i've ever had from Jamba!  I'm not a smoothy gal.  Usually I'm kind of a "give me ice cream, you can keep your fruit and veggies" kind of gal.  

[Amulek]

51 minutes ago, bluebell said:

The only secret menu I've ever ordered from is the one at Jamba Juice.  I ordered the white gummy and it was so good.  It's kind of like a starburst.  Very tasty.

There is a Tex-Mex place around here that has a creamy jalapeno ranch sauce which, I believe, used to (and, technically, might still not be) listed on their menu.

It's a pretty good dipping sauce to go with your tortilla chips though, and it's a good way to mix things up when you don't want to stick with just salsa.

 

[Calm]

15 minutes ago, Amulek said:

Some of the variations are posted on their website, but not all of them are. 

I suppose being knowledgeable of the so-called secret menu is supposed to make you feel like you have some kind of special, hidden, super-secret inside knowledge...or something. 

However, no amount of knowledge will change the fact that they are simply incapable of putting onion rings on your burger. And what freedom loving American wants to eat at a place where that isn't even an option?

 

Onion Rings on hamburgers should be a required option to get a restaurant license.

[Rain]

15 hours ago, bluebell said:

No, fry sauce is just ketchup and mayo mixed together, no relish.  Thousand Island is close, but it also has pickle relish, garlic, onions, and some vinegar in it.

Fry sauce also often has pickle juice. Leatherbys has minced onions. Whatever the version, I haven't tasted one that was like thousand island though so it is different. I just wouldn't be able to tell you how. 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Rain

[Rain]

The timing of the emphasis on the church name is proving interesting on my other board. Those who have left are equating the name "change" with wanting to distance from being known as a predictor church now with all the Sam Young stuff.

[Oliblish]

15 hours ago, Amulek said:

Some of the variations are posted on their website, but not all of them are. 

I suppose being knowledgeable of the so-called secret menu is supposed to make you feel like you have some kind of special, hidden, super-secret inside knowledge...or something. 

However, no amount of knowledge will change the fact that they are simply incapable of putting onion rings on your burger. And what freedom loving American wants to eat at a place where that isn't even an option?

 

I agree that onion rings on a burger are quite tasty.  At Apollo Burger in Utah you can get them if you order the Texas Bacon Cheeseburger (which I order every time I go there.)  

In N Out does offer grilled onions, which is almost as good as onion rings IMHO.  The things I like about In N Out are the toasted bun, fresh lettuce and tomato and the grilled onions.  The staff is always friendly and it is also fairly inexpensive compared to the other options.  The fries are below average.

 

Edited September 27, 2018 by Oliblish

[Kenngo1969]

On 9/26/2018 at 8:37 PM, Rain said:

The timing of the emphasis on the church name is proving interesting on my other board. Those who have left are equating the name "change" with wanting to distance from being known as a predictor church now with all the Sam Young stuff.

That's ridiculous, even by Great and Spacious Trailer Park™ standards.   

[Rain]

2 hours ago, Kenngo1969 said:

That's ridiculous, even by Great and Spacious Trailer Park™ standards.   

It is predictable on that board. That board has a huge variety of topics. We used to have some good discussions about the church. In fact, I was able to teach the gospel enough that 2 people were baptized - and one of them is a friend of mine still years later. But one of the members left the church and has become toxic. Several others left as well and took her lead on the board.  You cannot have a discussion about the chutch without them overrunning the thread and making it completely contentious. There are topics completely separate from the church where she will come through and throw out a snide remark.

So those of us who are active have found it is worse to participate in those threads. We just try to be positive influences on the board elsewhere.

[phaedrus ut]

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