Church statement on Charlottesville, Virginia

[The Nehor]

17 minutes ago, longview said:

NEWS FLASH:

The chancellor, the president at UC Berkeley, they just built a $9,000 escape door for the chancellor in the guy’s office to escape students who might protest and become violent.

Now, who are the students at UC Berkeley that might become violent and protest, necessitating an escape door in the office of the chancellor?

And I’ll tell you this: It ain’t the Nazis, and it ain’t the white supremacists at UC Berkeley that they’re scared of.     <<<<<<hint:  radical professors, irresponsible students, Antifa, other leftist>>>>>>

It was a Project Veritas video. He admitted that he was bought and paid for by Hillary Clinton. So we know this happens on both sides. It undeniably happens on both sides. We also know that most of this stuff is instigated primarily by one side. And yet that side I guess is to never be mentioned. In order for Trump to have passed this test, he was only supposed to condemn one side in this dispute. And he didn’t do that. Very obviously, Trump was supposed to condemn the white supremacists. He was supposed to condemn the Nazis and stop.

A door was put in a building. It is not in the chancellor's office. The people labeling it an escape door for the chancellor? (To use a phrase you seem to like) Far Right rags. Chancellor denies having anything to do with the decision to put in the door which makes sense as school chancellors have more important thing to do then worry about doors. The people who decided it was an escape door for the Chancellor: School newspaper writers....the bastion of effective journalism. You may want to fact check a little more next time. Those criticizing said door were "LEFTISTS" thinking the chancellor was running from them. You pick an odd moment to start believing the "mainstream liberal media" and their "fake news".

Edited August 15, 2017 by The Nehor

[The Nehor]

14 minutes ago, longview said:

Your intolerance is breath taking!   Your reasoning ability is sadly deranged.   There is NO defending when I oppose all sides in this sick event.   I do not have to follow your rules of conduct.  You sound like a Saul Alinsky disciple.

I am okay with being intolerant of literal Nazis due to their past record. They are worse then their opponents unless their opponents are literally demon-possessed Satanists and even then it may be too close to call.

If that makes me intolerant then the world needs more intolerance of that sort.

[provoman]

2 hours ago, BlueDreams said:

You're welcome, but I have to say that is absolutely ridiculous reasoning. By this logic no one should ever stand up against a social problem and captain Moroni should've stuck with the tactile business instead of writing up some statement and leading a army to push back a threat. Their ideology is repugnant and dangerous to our pluralistic american society. It is preying on the sympathies of some southerners who may still hold racist sympathies. I would be ashamed is someone didn't stand up to them. 

 

With luv,

BD  

Thanks for pointing what I left out. 

People should counter protest, with marching, words and sign and other legal means. 

As for enciting violence, which side encited the violence? I go to a  counter of a message I find  offensive to such a degree that I plan (locks in socks, brick, baseball bats) to resort to violence , which infringes on the rights of the speaker I find offensive leaves me just as offensive as those I protest.

[provoman]

For everyones reference:

 

(5)the term “domestic terrorism” means activities that—

(A)

involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State;

(B)appear to be intended—

(i)

to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;

(ii)

to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion; or

(iii)

to affect the conduct of a government by mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and

(C)

occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction of the United States.

 

And this from the FBI:

 

• Domestic terrorism is the unlawful use, or threatened use, of force or violence by a group or individual based and operating entirely within the United States or Puerto Rico without foreign direction committed against persons or property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population, or any segment thereof in furtherance of political or social objectives.

 

It would appear then, those who resort to violence to intimidate others not to speak,  fit within the definition of terrorism

[mnn727]

I am sick of the leftist's acting just like an American Taliban, trying to destroy what they don't like

Edited August 15, 2017 by mnn727

[bsjkki]

16 minutes ago, The Nehor said:

I am okay with being intolerant of literal Nazis due to their past record. They are worse then their opponents unless their opponents are literally demon-possessed Satanists and even then it may be too close to call.

If that makes me intolerant then the world needs more intolerance of that sort.

Do you understand who antifa is and that they purposely use violence to shut down anyone they view is a fascist. You approve of their doxxing methods, do you approve of their violent methods too?

[Duncan]

18 minutes ago, mnn727 said:

I am sick of the leftist's acting just like an American Taliban, trying to destroy what they don't like

do you find neo Naziism and the KKK to be community builders?

[mapman]

1 hour ago, Helmuth said:

I kind of do not think in pictures.  It is hard to apply Aristotelian Logic to pictures.  Maybe even other Alternative Culture Logics?

So it's going to be hard to continue a rational thread of thought and discourse with that method, much less begin one.  What should I do, post other pictures in refutation?

Plus, I didn't want an explanation of its "bad"-ness first.  I asked for a definition of what it is.  We cannot talk about a thing (rationally) until we know of what we are talking.

Of course, we can virtue-signal and talk about it irrationally all day.

Wow, it sounds like you are Very Smart and Incredibly Rational.

I'm all for philosophy, but I'm going to stick with my spiritual leaders on condemning hate and celebrating cultural diversity.

[mapman]

43 minutes ago, mnn727 said:

I am sick of the leftist's acting just like an American Taliban, trying to destroy what they don't like

I see more similarities between the Taliban and the neo-Nazis. Taliban claim to represent Islam and Islamic civilization, but their actions are completely opposite to what their religion teaches. A lot of these far right people claim to be Christians and defenders of American values, but their actions have nothing to do with the teachings of Jesus Christ or the freedoms the founders of this nation fought for.

And I would be ashamed if there were no Americans trying to destroy neo-Nazism by every legal way possible.

Edited August 15, 2017 by mapman

[Gray]

4 hours ago, longview said:

Why did you call me a nazi earlier in this thread?

I didn't call you a Nazi, but I called you out for covering for Nazis, which is what you were doing.

[Helmuth]

2 hours ago, Dexter Eli said:

Well, I was willing to seriously hear you out. But you obviously have no interest in actually expressing how you feel, so have a good one. I wish you well. 

You perhaps just have far less patience with cryptic comments than I, and far less interest in my thoughts than you pretend. 

Think about it. Caloric excess.

I could have said "decadence" instead, but then the question is: whence the decadence?  Why?

[longview]

35 minutes ago, Gray said:

I didn't call you a Nazi, but I called you out for covering for Nazis, which is what you were doing.

Condemning ALL sides in that sick affair is covering for nazis?   Your reasoning ability is just as BAD as Nehor's.  The LEFT is truly deranged.

[Helmuth]

2 hours ago, pogi said:

It sure as heck wasn't the alt – right!

it didn't originate here, but we adopted those principles before they were penned. That is the beauty of a melting pot of ideas.  Not all good things originate in the west.

Ha, ha; you're not even going to look it up, eh?  That's the level of your intellectual curiosity. Ah well, you already know it all and have it all figured out, so who needs curiosity, openness and honesty?  All crutches of ignorant losers who, unlike Modern Enlightened Pogi, don't already know it all.

Don't know of any school of thought as opposed to open inquiry and hearing unorthodox and unpleasant ideas as the third-worldists (aka leftists).  That is, mpst probably (but correct me if I'm wrong): your own!

As for me I'm as open as the deep black sky to any and all truth from any and all source!  You may be confusing me... for you.

All the Best!

[mapman]

9 minutes ago, Helmuth said:

You perhaps just have far less patience with cryptic comments than I, and far less interest in my thoughts than you pretend. 

Think about it. Caloric excess.

I could have said "decadence" instead, but then the question is: whence the decadence?  Why?

What's the point of talking cryptically on a message board unless you're a troll? Also caloric excess reminds me of this:

 

[longview]

1 hour ago, The Nehor said:

If that makes me intolerant then the world needs more intolerance of that sort.

If you are willing to give some degree of justification to Antifa, then you must approve of Eric Clanton using a bike chain lock to beat over the head of Ben Stiles who was peacefully protesting the unconstitutional threats against conservative speakers who were invited to lecture on the campus of Berkeley.  For more info, see: