Duncan Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 In the Doctrine and Covenants Section 58 it talks about blessings being revoked. If you have had Priesthood blessings or a patriarchal blessing or something how are you supposed to know if those blessings have been revoked or just haven't happened yet?
Robert F. Smith Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Duncan said: In the Doctrine and Covenants Section 58 it talks about blessings being revoked. If you have had Priesthood blessings or a patriarchal blessing or something how are you supposed to know if those blessings have been revoked or just haven't happened yet? Excommunication revokes some of them, but they can be restored later with repentance.
JLHPROF Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 One of my favorites. 32 I command and men obey not; I revoke and they receive not the blessing. It actually talks about laws and commandments being revoked, not blessings. It has direct correlation to: D&C 130:20 There is a law, irrevocably decreed in heaven before the foundations of this world, upon which all blessings are predicated— 21 And when we obtain any blessing from God, it is by obedience to that law upon which it is predicated. The blessings are only revoked if the law is not met. When plural marriage and consecration/united order and parts of the endowment were revoked the attending blessings went with them since those laws are no longer practiced. We have to live up to the light we now have in order to have the commandments and their blessings reinstated. Same principle as an excommunicated member. 2
stemelbow Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 9 hours ago, Duncan said: In the Doctrine and Covenants Section 58 it talks about blessings being revoked. If you have had Priesthood blessings or a patriarchal blessing or something how are you supposed to know if those blessings have been revoked or just haven't happened yet? I've received blessings, including in my Patriarchal, wherein times were attached. The times have come and gone and the blessing did not occur. I've attributed it to the mistaken inspiration promoted as valid inspiration. no one ever said revelation, in this sense, is foolproof. There has to be error and mistake. Although all of these instances could be because of my failures, I suppose, thus revoking the blessings. But I wouldn't know either way. I just have to keep going forward, I suppose. 1
Jeanne Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 I just saw this. Interesting is the note of patriarchal blessings. In an LDS point of view, can this remain even if it is questionable whether one returns?
JLHPROF Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 22 minutes ago, Jeanne said: I just saw this. Interesting is the note of patriarchal blessings. In an LDS point of view, can this remain even if it is questionable whether one returns? In MY point of view yes. All blessings are subject to the laws attached. If the conditions are met the blessings are given. Even if that happens after a long absence. 1
Jeanne Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 2 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: In MY point of view yes. All bThank lessings are subject to the laws attached. If the conditions are met the blessings are given. Even if that happens after a long absence. Thank you. I had not thought about the patriarchal blessings.
Duncan Posted April 29, 2016 Author Posted April 29, 2016 25 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: In MY point of view yes. All blessings are subject to the laws attached. If the conditions are met the blessings are given. Even if that happens after a long absence. So, let's say as it says in Pres. George Albert Smith's PB that he would be a prophet and let's say he went inactive and only came back to the Church at age 70 would he still be a prophet? as in Obviously God had in mind he would become the President of the Church. I wonder if God would have revoked that blessing of being the President of the Church if he didn't live up to it by a certain age
JLHPROF Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 1 hour ago, Duncan said: So, let's say as it says in Pres. George Albert Smith's PB that he would be a prophet and let's say he went inactive and only came back to the Church at age 70 would he still be a prophet? as in Obviously God had in mind he would become the President of the Church. I wonder if God would have revoked that blessing of being the President of the Church if he didn't live up to it by a certain age There would be a commandment/law required to be lived in order for that blessing to be realized. If the conditions were not met the blessing would be revoked too. But age doesn't matter, nor does "prophet" even have to mean general authority. A testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy. Joseph Smith said all men with testimonies are prophets. If the hypothetically apostate Pres. Smith regained his testimony at age 70 that blessing could still be fulfilled.
Duncan Posted April 29, 2016 Author Posted April 29, 2016 17 minutes ago, JLHPROF said: There would be a commandment/law required to be lived in order for that blessing to be realized. If the conditions were not met the blessing would be revoked too. But age doesn't matter, nor does "prophet" even have to mean general authority. A testimony of Christ is the spirit of prophecy. Joseph Smith said all men with testimonies are prophets. If the hypothetically apostate Pres. Smith regained his testimony at age 70 that blessing could still be fulfilled. I think it was Pres. Kimball who said that a PB is a white line down the road but this example of prophet could mean this or it could mean, I guess we are back to the original question how do you know what to believe and how well you are doing in life if blessings aren't being fulfilled?
Ahab Posted April 29, 2016 Posted April 29, 2016 (edited) Back to the best answer now: Revelation That's how we know anything regarding what God will give or has taken away. Edited April 29, 2016 by Ahab I hate typos
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