Duncan Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 If the Prophet is incapacitated, who issues the call to new apostles? I think one of his counselors. Pres. Hinckley issued the calls to Elders Nelson and Oaks, the inspiration came to Pres. Kimball but issuing the calling was delegated out
bluebell Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 I think one of his counselors. Pres. Hinckley issued the calls to Elders Nelson and Oaks, the inspiration came to Pres. Kimball but issuing the calling was delegated out But what if the prophet is so incapacitated that even receiving the inspiration is not possible?
Duncan Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 But what if the prophet is so incapacitated that even receiving the inspiration is not possible? ah, who knows. Maybe they just wait until he comes around again? Perhaps that's what happened with Pres. Kimball and why they waited for a bit to call Elders Nelson and Oaks, but that's a guess
HappyJackWagon Posted October 1, 2015 Author Posted October 1, 2015 But what if the prophet is so incapacitated that even receiving the inspiration is not possible?Good question. I think it still falls to the first presidency and then as usual they get the sustaining of the Q12.Of course "incapacitation" is a continuum. For example, IF Pres. Monson sufferes from some level of dementia, he could still be very capable of giving the final approval on the choices provided him. The First Presidency would have significant authority.
Mars Posted October 1, 2015 Posted October 1, 2015 [sigh] You and your mind reading. Last time it was "rage" you attributed to me (btw, it was incredulity, not rage). Now it's hostility. BTW, going forward, if I post a meme that uses Ron Burgundy, chances are I'm using humor...not "rage" and not "hostility." 1
Tacenda Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 (edited) President Kimball talked about when he was called as an Apostle in his biography. As far as I know that is about as much as has been shared about what happened. I remember reading his biography and how he developed horrible boils, if I'm remembering right or that might be when he was called as a prophet. Sounds like he was very anxious about being called to be an apostle, according to the below c/p.... https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-spencer-w-kimball/the-life-and-ministry-of-spencer-w-kimball?lang=eng On July 8, 1943, President J. Reuben Clark Jr. of the First Presidency called Spencer at home. He said that Spencer had been called to fill one of the two vacant seats in the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles. To this, Spencer responded: “Oh, Brother Clark! Not me? You don’t mean me? There must be some mistake. I surely couldn’t have heard you right. … It seems so impossible. I am so weak and small and limited and incapable.”18 Spencer assured President Clark that there could be only one response to a call from the Lord, but his willingness to serve did not immediately overcome his feelings of inadequacy and unworthiness.Those feelings intensified over the next few days, during which Spencer had little or no sleep. While he was in Boulder, Colorado, to visit his son, he went walking in the hills early one morning. As he climbed higher and higher, he reflected on the magnitude of the apostolic office. He was tormented by the thought that he might not measure up, that his calling might have been some mistake. In this frame of mind, he approached the peak of the mountain he was climbing, where he fell in prayer and meditation. “How I prayed!” he recalled. “How I suffered! How I wept! How I struggled!” As he agonized, a dream came to him of his grandfather Heber C. Kimball and “the great work he had done.” This awareness calmed Spencer’s heart. “A calm feeling of assurance came over me, doubt and questionings subdued. It was as though a great burden had been lifted. I sat in tranquil silence surveying the beautiful valley, thanking the Lord for the satisfaction and the reassuring answer to my prayers.”19 On October 7, 1943, at age 48, Spencer W. Kimball was ordained an Apostle. Edited October 3, 2015 by Tacenda
Duncan Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 Something I find interesting is that for 7 years prior to Elder Marion G. Romney being called as an Apostle he fasted once a week just to get the idea of him being an apostle out of his mind-That's humility 1
VideoGameJunkie Posted October 3, 2015 Posted October 3, 2015 I assume no one WANTS to be an apostle. I mean, I doubt anyone even wants to be a Bishop. Except, of course, the Ordain Women group.
Mother Mayhem Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 Going to the source (Bishop, SP) state your grievance and hold them accountable. If after that meeting you can raise your hand, as it is now in the Lords hands and timing. Move own...
Mother Mayhem Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 Something I find interesting is that for 7 years prior to Elder Marion G. Romney being called as an Apostle he fasted once a week just to get the idea of him being an apostle out of his mind-That's humility
Mother Mayhem Posted October 4, 2015 Posted October 4, 2015 This is wonderful. Yet he knew and prayed for the opposite. LOL
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