asweaterfriend Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 Have you ever looked at Saturn through a telescope? It is one of the most amazing things I have ever seen. See http://saturn.jpl.nasa.gov/. It would be okay with me if the only reason the other planets exist was because they are beautiful, which they are. 3
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 24, 2014 Author Posted September 24, 2014 asweaterfriend, I would be fine with that reason too. The cosmos and universe is something beautiful to behold.
Nofear Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) I think one is thinking too hard about it. God wanted to organize a planet suitable for our species mortal phase and there was a big cloud of gas and dust. When forming/organizing the solar system only so much was needed for the earth but it's not like God could just make the other matter that wasn't needed magically disappear. So, it was organized (probably in a manner consistent with the nebular hypothesis). It should also be noted that it may well be (though, a minority of scientists disagree) that Jupiter protects the earth from many asteroid impacts by clearing out excess debris. Anyway, long story short -- more planets because the stuff had to go somewhere. Edited September 24, 2014 by Nofear 3
mnn727 Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 (edited) Could be practice. I have no idea. There has to be a purpose for those planets somehow.To make people ask questions. Seriously God did not 'create' the planets. He organized existing material. slightly different.Mankind could already be using those other planets as resources, instead we're too obsessed with our own petty differences.God gives us what we need, but does not coerce us. This planet (and others) could already be a near paradise except we keep messing up. Look what the Mormon pioneers did with a desert valley when left pretty much alone for a half century. Edited September 24, 2014 by mnn727 1
theplains Posted September 24, 2014 Posted September 24, 2014 The fact that God creates planets doesn't mean every planet exists because he has created it. Can you give us an example of a planet which exists now which God did not create? Thanks,Jim
guerreiro9 Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 I think you are all underestimating the effect the other plants have on the Earth.In all the orbital simulations that I run I have to remember to account for the gravitational effect of the other planets (especially Jupiter) or the simulation is incorrect.The Earth is so delicately balanced to support human life. If even one planet were removed that balance could be upset and human life on Earth would not be possible.-guerreiro9 4
Robert F. Smith Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 So God loved Saturn so he put a ring on it? I mean what was the point of creating Mercury if it's too hot to contain life?Job takes on the issue in a more positive way, in Job 6:8-10 (New Jerusalem Bible), He and no other has stretched out the heavensand trampled on the back of the Sea.He has made the Bear and Orion,the Pleiades and the Mansions of the South.The works he does are great and unfathomable,and his marvels cannot be counted. Bildad the Shuhite says this in Job 26:3-14, He it was who spread the North above the voidand poised the earth on nothingness................................. He covers the face of the full moon,spreading his clouds across it.He has traced a ring on the surface of the waters,at the boundary between light and dark.The pillars of the heavens tremble,awe-struck at his threats...................................... His breath has made the heavens luminous,his hand transfixed the Fleeing Serpent (Leviathan).This is only a fraction of what he has doneand all we catch of it is the feeblest echo.But who can conceive the thunder of his power? Why would we imagine that the Maestro of the Universe would not ornament his creation with clever and beautiful items? Seems rather limiting to His great works to demand that they make perfect sense from our human viewpoint. 1
Robert F. Smith Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 I think you are all underestimating the effect the other plants have on the Earth.In all the orbital simulations that I run I have to remember to account for the gravitational effect of the other planets (especially Jupiter) or the simulation is incorrect.The Earth is so delicately balanced to support human life. If even one planet were removed that balance could be upset and human life on Earth would not be possible.-guerreiro9I don't know about all that, but there is Bode's Law.
Darren10 Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 What's the point of God creating planets like Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, Venus, Pluto, Saturn, etc. ... So that we can have an awesome space program on earth.
thesometimesaint Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 I think you are all underestimating the effect the other plants have on the Earth.In all the orbital simulations that I run I have to remember to account for the gravitational effect of the other planets (especially Jupiter) or the simulation is incorrect.The Earth is so delicately balanced to support human life. If even one planet were removed that balance could be upset and human life on Earth would not be possible.-guerreiro9 Life isn't all that delicate.
Ahab Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Can you give us an example of a planet which exists now which God did not create?Thanks,JimNo, I'm not authorized to tell you that much. 1
Guest Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 In the Milky Way Galaxy we got other planets besides just Earth which humans live on. What's the point of God creating planets like Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, Venus, Pluto, Saturn, etc. if not to populate them with humans or other life beings? Do you think God created other life forms for those planets, are there aliens out there?Each planet in our system along with the sun, keeps all other in absolute certainty to ensure that life here of this parent planet will support life. As to others systems, there are 1,000,000's that could do the same.
Ahab Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 Coolness is achieved by the removal or absence of heat, so to say something is cool is the same as to say it is not hot. I just think it's interesting that some people often use the word cool while others prefer to say something is hot when talking about something that they really like.Like how I would say God is hot! while someone else would say that he is cool! Especially in light of his reality.
VideoGameJunkie Posted September 25, 2014 Author Posted September 25, 2014 God is probably hot since D&C 137 says God is sitting on a "blazing" throne and the entrance gate to the Celestial Kingdom is encircled in flames.
Ahab Posted September 25, 2014 Posted September 25, 2014 God is probably hot since D&C 137 says God is sitting on a "blazing" throne and the entrance gate to the Celestial Kingdom is encircled in flames.Yeah that's what I was referring to as his reality. He is actually hot!... literally and figuratively, even though some people will say he is figuratively cool.It also reminds me of how some people think of Hell as a place that is hot, even though it is actually cool. Those sent to "Outer Darkness" will be sent out into the deep nether regions of space, while those in Heaven will be where it is hot.So don't think you're in Hell when you die and find yourself surrounded by fire and people/things that are actually hot. 1
guerreiro9 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Life isn't all that delicate.You're right it isn't. That's why species never go extinct and life is found on every planet. Oh wait...-guerreiro9 1
Daniel2 Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Balance. The universe operates according to an intricate interconnected balance. The planets in their rotation interconnect and affect the gravitational fields and balance out the conditions here on earth. All life is connected. 2
thesometimesaint Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 You're right it isn't. That's why species never go extinct and life is found on every planet. Oh wait...-guerreiro9 Null hypothesis
KARELLBINGHAM Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Moses 2:14,Lights in the firmament...for signs and seasons, for days and for years. 2
Ahab Posted September 26, 2014 Posted September 26, 2014 Moses 2:14,Lights in the firmament...for signs and seasons, for days and for years.Created...organized...positioned this planet in its orbit and that is why we see the particular lights in the sky that we see when we see them throughout the seasons and years here. 1
Robert F. Smith Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) In the Milky Way Galaxy we got other planets besides just Earth which humans live on. What's the point of God creating planets like Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, Venus, Pluto, Saturn, etc. if not to populate them with humans or other life beings? Do you think God created other life forms for those planets, are there aliens out there?Each planet in our system along with the sun, keeps all other in absolute certainty to ensure that life here of this parent planet will support life. As to others systems, there are 1,000,000's that could do the same.Actually, Earth is not the "parent planet." Many other solar systems formed before ours, and life has been in this universe for eons.A computer simulation (via Reuters) shows us the evolution of our universe during the past 13 billion years since the Big Bang: https://news.yahoo.com/video/virtual-universe-revealed-unprecedented-detail-170044484.html . There is also a wonderful illustration of the formation of our solar system near the end of that sequence: http://images.sciencedaily.com/2014/09/140925141226-large.jpg (Bill Saxton, NSF/AUI/NRAO). This is featured in Carnegie Institution, “Earth's Water is Older Than the Sun: Likely Originated as Ices That Formed in Interstellar Space,” ScienceDaily.com, Sept 25, 2014, online at http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140925141226.htm , from which I excerpt the following remarks: In its youth, the Sun was surrounded by a protoplanetary disk, the so-called solar nebula, from which the planets were born. But it was unclear to researchers whether the ice in this disk originated from the Sun's own parental interstellar molecular cloud, from which it was created, or whether this interstellar water had been destroyed and was re-formed by the chemical reactions taking place in the solar nebula. "Why this is important? If water in the early Solar System was primarily inherited as ice from interstellar space, then it is likely that similar ices, along with the prebiotic organic matter that they contain, are abundant in most or all protoplanetary disks around forming stars," Alexander explained. "But if the early Solar System's water was largely the result of local chemical processing during the Sun's birth, then it is possible that the abundance of water varies considerably in forming planetary systems, which would obviously have implications for the potential for the emergence of life elsewhere." . . . at least some of the water in our own Solar System has an origin in interstellar space and pre-dates the birth of the Sun. "Our findings show that a significant fraction of our Solar System's water, the most-fundamental ingredient to fostering life, is older than the Sun, which indicates that abundant, organic-rich interstellar ices should probably be found in all young planetary systems," [Conel] Alexander said. Some hints on the complexity of the creation by God and His Retinue. Edited September 27, 2014 by Robert F. Smith
thesometimesaint Posted September 27, 2014 Posted September 27, 2014 (edited) Actually, Earth is not the "parent planet." Many other solar systems formed before ours, and life has been in this universe for eons.A computer simulation (via Reuters) shows us the evolution of our universe during the past 13 billion years since the Big Bang: https://news.yahoo.com/video/virtual-universe-revealed-unprecedented-detail-170044484.html . There is also a wonderful illustration of the formation of our solar system near the end of that sequence: http://images.sciencedaily.com/2014/09/140925141226-large.jpg (Bill Saxton, NSF/AUI/NRAO). This is featured in Carnegie Institution, “Earth's Water is Older Than the Sun: Likely Originated as Ices That Formed in Interstellar Space,” ScienceDaily.com, Sept 25, 2014, online at http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/09/140925141226.htm , from which I excerpt the following remarks: In its youth, the Sun was surrounded by a protoplanetary disk, the so-called solar nebula, from which the planets were born. But it was unclear to researchers whether the ice in this disk originated from the Sun's own parental interstellar molecular cloud, from which it was created, or whether this interstellar water had been destroyed and was re-formed by the chemical reactions taking place in the solar nebula. "Why this is important? If water in the early Solar System was primarily inherited as ice from interstellar space, then it is likely that similar ices, along with the prebiotic organic matter that they contain, are abundant in most or all protoplanetary disks around forming stars," Alexander explained. "But if the early Solar System's water was largely the result of local chemical processing during the Sun's birth, then it is possible that the abundance of water varies considerably in forming planetary systems, which would obviously have implications for the potential for the emergence of life elsewhere." . . . at least some of the water in our own Solar System has an origin in interstellar space and pre-dates the birth of the Sun. "Our findings show that a significant fraction of our Solar System's water, the most-fundamental ingredient to fostering life, is older than the Sun, which indicates that abundant, organic-rich interstellar ices should probably be found in all young planetary systems," [Conel] Alexander said. Some hints on the complexity of the creation by God and His Retinue. It may well be there is life on other planets. Maybe even intelligent life. We just haven't been able to find it yet. If our solar system is not unusual, then there are so many planets in the universe that, for example, they outnumber the sum of all sounds and words ever uttered by every human who has ever lived. To declare that Earth must be the only planet with life in the universe would be inexcusably big-headed of us.Dr. Tyson Edited September 27, 2014 by thesometimesaint
carbon dioxide Posted September 28, 2014 Posted September 28, 2014 In the Milky Way Galaxy we got other planets besides just Earth which humans live on. What's the point of God creating planets like Mercury, Mars, Jupiter, Neptune, Uranus, Venus, Pluto, Saturn, etc. if not to populate them with humans or other life beings? Do you think God created other life forms for those planets, are there aliens out there?The problem science has is that it assumes that any life on other planets must live under the same conditions as it does here on earth. So they look for planets similar to ours for life but who is to say that there is not life on planets that are very different than our planet. Also resurrected beings could inhabit planets that mortal humans could not inhabit. Perhaps many planets have resurrected beings on them but we would just see them as lifeless planets because they have no water. 1
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