Four Big Bangs: Theism Defended Against Atheism With Science

[cdowis]

Yes I've heard about them.

Ah, you were merely pretending to be ignorant.  

 

Very clever tactic!  

Edited August 17, 2014 by cdowis

[thesometimesaint]

Ah, you were merely pretending to be ignorant.  

 

Very clever tactic!  

 

 It is kinda hard to answer a question not asked. For the record the Maya Civilization ended c. 1300. Spain became a country in 1469.

[cdowis]

 It is kinda hard to answer a question not asked. For the record the Maya Civilization ended c. 1300. Spain became a country in 1469.

 

Yes, that was indeed your response to my post that the records of the Mayans were destroyed by the Spanish.

 

Clearly I was mistaken.

Edited August 17, 2014 by cdowis

[thesometimesaint]

Yes, that was indeed your response to my post that the records of the Mayans were destroyed by the Spanish.

 

But let's move on.

 

Then we agree the Spanish whatever their faults were, and there are many faults, are not responsible for the Maya Civilization collapse.

 

OK.

[ERayR]

 It is kinda hard to answer a question not asked. For the record the Maya Civilization ended c. 1300. Spain became a country in 1469.

 

The Maya is a Mesoamerican civilization, noted for the only known fully developed written language of the pre-Columbian Americas, as well as for its art, architecture, and mathematical and astronomical systems. Initially established during the Pre-Classic period (c. 2000 BC to AD 250), according to the Mesoamerican chronology, many Maya cities reached their highest state of development during the Classic period (c. AD 250 to 900), and continued throughout the Post-Classic period until the arrival of the Spanish.

[thesometimesaint]

The Maya is a Mesoamerican civilization, noted for the only known fully developed written language of the pre-Columbian Americas, as well as for its art, architecture, and mathematical and astronomical systems. Initially established during the Pre-Classic period (c. 2000 BC to AD 250), according to the Mesoamerican chronology, many Maya cities reached their highest state of development during the Classic period (c. AD 250 to 900), and continued throughout the Post-Classic period until the arrival of the Spanish.

 

Here are my sources.

http://www.thenagain.info/webchron/americas/endmaya.html

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/sipa/envp/louchouarn/courses/Clim-Wat/Wat/Drought-MayanCollapse%28AmerSci05%29.pdf

[ERayR]

Here are my sources.

http://www.thenagain.info/webchron/americas/endmaya.html

http://www.columbia.edu/itc/sipa/envp/louchouarn/courses/Clim-Wat/Wat/Drought-MayanCollapse%28AmerSci05%29.pdf

 

In doing some further looking the time runs from 900 AD to the one I quoted from Wikipedia.  Take your pick.

[thesometimesaint]

In doing some further looking the time runs from 900 AD to the one I quoted from Wikipedia.  Take your pick.

 

I'm fine with anytime before the Spanish Conquest. By the time of the Spanish Conquest the Maya were long gone probably because of agricultural collapse and internecine warfare. The Aztec became the big boys on the block.

[gripper41]

A question to all those trying to use science to prove God.

None of you accept the time frames associated with the creation as generally accepted by most church members do you?

[ERayR]

More Post Hoc Ergo Prompter Hoc fallacy.

 

A legitimate question.  It seems, sir, that when you can't answer you duck down and claim a fallacy.  Your fallacy claim in this instance is questionable.

[thesometimesaint]

A legitimate question.  It seems, sir, that when you can't answer you duck down and claim a fallacy.  Your fallacy claim in this instance is questionable.

 

If you have to resort to fallacious arguments to maintain your beliefs. I really don't know what to say.