..."get Out!"

[MiserereNobis]

What would pope francis say about a priest and his flock in this elegant bar?

 

Ha!  Luckily, I wasn't there with a priest

[why me]

 

Last night I drank some bourbon and scotch with friends at this bar.  The mere presence of alcohol, or the title of a bar, does not drive away God's spirit.  I've had many an incredible religious conversation over wine or beer.

 

I suppose that one can have religious conversations anywhere. But the question is whether or not the holy spirit would be in such a place? Maybe or maybe not. But it is certainly a nice secular bar...a nice place to have a chat.

[why me]

Ha!  Luckily, I wasn't there with a priest

He could have been if you invited him and bought him a beer. I don't think that he would say no. Have your next brewpub discussion there.

[MiserereNobis]

He could have been if you invited him and bought him a beer. I don't think that he would say no. Have your next brewpub discussion there.

 

Good idea! 

[why me]

Good idea! 

My father was a part-time bartender. I spent many nights in the bar, watching Lassie or Combat with vic morrow. And Guns smoke was a favorite of mine as I sat there with my father tending bar.  I would sit on the bar stool drink a coke and have a bag of chips. Sometimes I would play pool in the back of the bar. And my mom would take me with her to the gin mill on a friday night. And later as a teenager, i would visit my uncle in a bar in his neighborhood. I would have a coke. So, I have been in bars from a very early age. They were fun times. Nothing evil except when someone got a little tipsy and aggressive and got the heave ho out the door.

Edited April 14, 2014 by why me

[Sleeper Cell]

Volunteer disaster service workers are repeatedly instructed  to never put themselves at risk, even to save human life.  For example, “never enter a partly collapsed building.”  It is not just a matter of our own safety.  If I  become a casualty, what about the others whom I might have been able to save, had I not put myself at risk?  And what about the people whom a highly trained professional responder might have been able to save, had he not had to spend time to rescue me?  

 

The OP  mockingly refers to shouting from our lofty towers.  Yet, shouting instructions from comparative safety outside a seriously damaged building is precisely what we are instructed to do.  That, and pass the information on to professional responders who have the necessary advanced training and specialized equipment.  .

 

Would it be fair to accuse volunteer disaster service workers of being “afraid to get their hands dirty,” or of being reluctant to “go outside their comfort zone”  or  “neglecting the needful among us?”  

[Flyonthewall]

The LDS church has a missionary force that seeks out those that are willing to listen. We will not force anyone to hear the message.

The missionaries go house to house, contact people on the street, and get referrals from friends and neighbors.

I do not believe the missionaries, or anyone else, are required to go into unsafe areas to preach the gospel.

We do as Jesus did. We make ourselves known, invite all we come in contact with to hear the gospel, and when someone shows interest, we go see them at their place, or invite them to our place.

We may not preach in places "sinners" gather to sin, but we contact them at other places.

[Kenngo1969]

... We may not preach in places "sinners" gather to sin, but we contact them at other places.

[Calm]

 

Volunteer disaster service workers are repeatedly instructed  to never put themselves at risk, even to save human life.  For example, “never enter a partly collapsed building.”  It is not just a matter of our own safety.  If I  become a casualty, what about the others whom I might have been able to save, had I not put myself at risk?  And what about the people whom a highly trained professional responder might have been able to save, had he not had to spend time to rescue me?  

 

The OP  mockingly refers to shouting from our lofty towers.  Yet, shouting instructions from comparative safety outside a seriously damaged building is precisely what we are instructed to do.  That, and pass the information on to professional responders who have the necessary advanced training and specialized equipment.  .

 

Would it be fair to accuse volunteer disaster service workers of being “afraid to get their hands dirty,” or of being reluctant to “go outside their comfort zone”  or  “neglecting the needful among us?”  

 

Nice analogy.

[wenglund]

Talk about taking things to extreme ...

 

 

Bonus points for the unwitting irony.

 

Thanks, -Wade Englund-

[mormonnewb]

 

Volunteer disaster service workers are repeatedly instructed  to never put themselves at risk, even to save human life.  For example, “never enter a partly collapsed building.”  It is not just a matter of our own safety.  If I  become a casualty, what about the others whom I might have been able to save, had I not put myself at risk?  And what about the people whom a highly trained professional responder might have been able to save, had he not had to spend time to rescue me?  

 

The OP  mockingly refers to shouting from our lofty towers.  Yet, shouting instructions from comparative safety outside a seriously damaged building is precisely what we are instructed to do.  That, and pass the information on to professional responders who have the necessary advanced training and specialized equipment.  .

 

Would it be fair to accuse volunteer disaster service workers of being “afraid to get their hands dirty,” or of being reluctant to “go outside their comfort zone”  or  “neglecting the needful among us?”  

 

 

So, to be clear, in this analogy, member missionaries are the volunteer disaster service workers who should leave dangerous tasks to the professionals?  That makes sense, except it leaves me to wonder -- WHO are the professionals?

 

Are they the ward mission leaders?  Certainly, they're not the 18 and 19 yo KIDS on missions.  Or are they?

[MiserereNobis]

So, to be clear, in this analogy, member missionaries are the volunteer disaster service workers who should leave dangerous tasks to the professionals?  That makes sense, except it leaves me to wonder -- WHO are the professionals?

 

Are they the ward mission leaders?  Certainly, they're not the 18 and 19 yo KIDS on missions.  Or are they?

 

The professionals are Catholic missionaries