A Theory Of Lds Evolution (Add Yours Here)

[longview]

A lot of this conflict is unnecessary. So long as we consider the Garden of Eden an actual garden rather than the whole planet, and discard the scientifically improbable young Earth theory, we can have our cake and eat it too with regards to Adam and Eve and evolution.

 

You are right that there is a serious conflict.  But when you consider that Al Gore had a vested interest in Enron with its preparations for trading carbon credits and his advocacy for governmental restrictions and coercions on the people.  This is just one of the ways that the left is using to steer the country into the dark age of Orwellian totalitarian nightmare.  Thankfully, Enron was exposed in 2001 to have engaged in fraud.  But Al Gore has not given up and still is pushing for ways to impose his scheme for "Cap and Trade" and a whole host of wacky agendas.  It is very necessary for all men to stand for the truth and to fight any attempt to deprive us of our Constitutional Protections that is threatened by these radical groups.

 

"Have your cake and eat it too?"   Playing around with vain speculations on evolution and other fanciful theories not gonna cut it.  We are encouraged by the Lord to truly search out all fields of knowledge and research and not be confined to the whims and questionable motives of certain groups of "men".

[Stone holm]

You are right that there is a serious conflict.  But when you consider that Al Gore had a vested interest in Enron with its preparations for trading carbon credits and his advocacy for governmental restrictions and coercions on the people.  This is just one of the ways that the left is using to steer the country into the dark age of Orwellian totalitarian nightmare.  Thankfully, Enron was exposed in 2001 to have engaged in fraud.  But Al Gore has not given up and still is pushing for ways to impose his scheme for "Cap and Trade" and a whole host of wacky agendas.  It is very necessary for all men to stand for the truth and to fight any attempt to deprive us of our Constitutional Protections that is threatened by these radical groups.

 

"Have your cake and eat it too?"   Playing around with vain speculations on evolution and other fanciful theories not gonna cut it.  We are encouraged by the Lord to truly search out all fields of knowledge and research and not be confined to the whims and questionable motives of certain groups of "men".

 

Yeah, not sure I understand what Al Gore has to do with any of this.  Evolution is hardly a "fanciful theory" as it is basically the foundation of modern biology.  However, it need not necessarily conflict with the Genesis account of Adam and Eve -- as the Bible is completely silent about what is going on outside the "garden".  The DNA evidence now suggests that the ancestors of most humans interbred with Neanderthals at some point -- which would have merged the Adam and Eve strain with the evolved strain.  But it sounds like your approach to all of this is not necessarily religious or scientific, but from a political ideological standpoint.

[longview]

Yeah, not sure I understand what Al Gore has to do with any of this . . .

 

I would think you are already familiar with "carbon credits" or "Cap and Trade" or his book "Earth in the Balance" or his propaganda film "An Inconvenient Truth" ?  Do you not understand that Al Gore wants the power of government to force a large reduction in the "carbon footprint" for each person and business entity?  Thereby diminishing the quality of life for the people?  Don't you see the connection between carbon credits with output of CO2 gas?

 

Word of warning since you are new, we remove those who derail threads into political squabbles.

[thesometimesaint]

I would think you are already familiar with "carbon credits" or "Cap and Trade" or his book "Earth in the Balance" or his propaganda film "An Inconvenient Truth" ?  Do you not understand that Al Gore wants the power of government to force a large reduction in the "carbon footprint" for each person and business entity?  Thereby diminishing the quality of life for the people?  Don't you see the connection between carbon credits with output of CO2 gas?

Cap and trade is a Republican idea.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/air/the-political-history-of-cap-and-trade-34711212/?no-ist

 

These sure looks like forced reduction to me.

http://www.fritolay.com/our-planet/snacks-made-with-the-help-of-the-sun.html

http://www.triplepundit.com/2010/02/new-sunchips-bag-compostable/

 

This sure looks like a diminished quality of life to me.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW_Hydrogen_7

http://www.plugincars.com/cadillac-elr

 

What I do see is someone with a political agenda, facts be damned.

 

You are out of the thread.

[Stone holm]

I would think you are already familiar with "carbon credits" or "Cap and Trade" or his book "Earth in the Balance" or his propaganda film "An Inconvenient Truth" ?  Do you not understand that Al Gore wants the power of government to force a large reduction in the "carbon footprint" for each person and business entity?  Thereby diminishing the quality of life for the people?  Don't you see the connection between carbon credits with output of CO2 gas?

 

And this has what to do with an LDS Theory of Evolution?  Hm?  Nothing.

[thesometimesaint]

And this has what to do with an LDS Theory of Evolution?  Hm?  Nothing.

 

Both are oxymoronic.

[knowone]

That is a reasonable abbreviated approximation of the Gospel according to Nehor on this topic though I would put provisos and maybes around most of it and will not share it in Church or even with most members. I would place the garden on another planet. I also believe Adam and Eve and the preexisting humanoid population, if any, all had spirits at birth that were children of God. I suspect our "world" that started with Adam and Eve is not the first "batch" of God's children to go through this test or one like it suited to whoever they were.

 

i also believe the garden of eden to be on another planet.  specifically mars.  they have found life on mars.  there were so little organisms, that nasa decided it didnt reach the level of acceptability of 'life' in their estimation.

 

also of note is that mars is in the goldilocks zone for life.  it only has no atmosphere which prevents it from having life as we know it.

[The Nehor]

i also believe the garden of eden to be on another planet.  specifically mars.  they have found life on mars.  there were so little organisms, that nasa decided it didnt reach the level of acceptability of 'life' in their estimation.

 

also of note is that mars is in the goldilocks zone for life.  it only has no atmosphere which prevents it from having life as we know it.

Wait.....what?

[knowone]

Wait.....what?

 

during the viking space probe project, 4 tests were set up to search for life in a thimble size amount of martian soil.  one of the creators of one of the tests, dr gil levin says that his test did indeed find life.  the soil was sampled & tested to see if any co2 would be found which would indicate life.  surprisingly, his test hit positive for life according to the criteria set by nasa itself

 

the other tests were negative, but according to dr levin, his test was more sensitive.  the other tests would react to microorganisms in the 3 million range, whereas his test was sensitive to the 30 micro-organism range.

 

nasa releases misinformation that all the tests were negative.

 

http://www.gillevin.com/mars.htm

Edited March 4, 2014 by knowone

[longview]

And this has what to do with an LDS Theory of Evolution?  Hm?  Nothing.

 

My original post in this thread (#12) was focused on showing examples of science having many more questions than "facts".  Here are a couple of fragment from that post:

 

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 Religion does not have a conflict with science.  All "scientific" truths are wholly contained within God's truths.  The only problem with science is that scientists are forced to make numerous assumptions and projections about all kinds of factors in order to develop their theories.  We do not know how God performed His creative works but we can learn a few of the details, some figuratively, some literally.

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 I could go on and on about various abuses various kinds of professors and researchers and scientists.  The debate is NOT settled.  Do not be fooled.  Keep questioning.

My apologies to the moderators for the political tinge of a few of our points. My concern is that the misuse of science has the real potential of causing people to become immoral and the government to turn increasingly tyrannical. I appreciate all your perspectives.

[Rob Osborn]

My original post in this thread (#12) was focused on showing examples of science having many more questions than "facts".  Here are a couple of fragment from that post:

 

My apologies to the moderators for the political tinge of a few of our points. My concern is that the misuse of science has the real potential of causing people to become immoral and the government to turn increasingly tyrannical. I appreciate all your perspectives.

I agree 100%.

[Helen47]

http://biologos.org/

 

An evangelical outlook on evolution  the world is very old