Evolution: Non-Denial Denial?

[thesometimesaint]

The gene sequences are really not similar. A bat has more genetic similarities to you than a bird does to a bat. .

SEE https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Convergent_evolution

[pogi]

Straw man.

I have never compared a bird to a bat.  That would be an example of phenotypic convergence, not genotypic convergence (you continue to conflate the two). 

Essentially, you are calling these scientists liars or idiots.  The funny thing is, no other scientists are calling foul, only you are.

Bats and dolphins evolved the exact same genes, hundreds of them (and in other cases thousands), independently.  Apparently you don't understand the implications this has on genetic ontology that these scientists are talking about. 

Edited April 7, 2016 by pogi

[thesometimesaint]

48 minutes ago, pogi said:

Straw man.

I have never compared a bird to a bat.  That would be an example of phenotypic convergence, not genotypic convergence (you continue to conflate the two). 

Essentially, you are calling these scientists liars or idiots.  The funny thing is, no other scientists are calling foul, only you are.

Bats and dolphins evolved the exact same genes, hundreds of them (and in other cases thousands), independently.  Apparently you don't understand the implications this has on genetic ontology that these scientists are talking about. 

SEE https://www.sciencenews.org/article/many-genes-dolphins-and-bats-evolved-same-way-allow-echolocation

[pogi]

37 minutes ago, thesometimesaint said:

SEE https://www.sciencenews.org/article/many-genes-dolphins-and-bats-evolved-same-way-allow-echolocation

And?  Nobody is denying the convergence of hundreds of genetic regions between the 2 species.   That one geneticist is simply stating that, while we do know that some of these convergent genes are involved in echolocation, the only criticism is that we can't really say for sure if all 200 convergent regions are related to echolocation - but they still evolved the exact same genetic sequences independently wether they are involved in echolocation or not. 

If you don't want to dialogue with me, go away.  Don't just post links. Show me the relevant parts and what you think it means.

Convergent genetic mutation is real.  This is only one of hundreds of examples, they are discovering more all of the time.  You can close your eyes and perpetuate your dogma all you want, but it will not go away. 

Edited April 7, 2016 by pogi