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Has anyone read this book?  I was a big fan of Bill O'Reilly's first two books, but when I looked at this recent publication I felt that it was just more of the same nonsense I have read in the past.  For example...

1.  He states as historical fact the killing of innocents in Bethlehem.

2.  The James was not his actual brother, but rather a live-in playmate.

3.  Mary Magdala is referred to, again, as a prostitute.

4.  The Jewish bible (Tanakh) was published 500 years before Jesus' birth.

5.  He calls Jesus a carpenter, but he was actually referred to as a tekton or skilled laborer.

6.  The wise men are shown contemporaneous with Jesus as an infant which would have been factually in error.

One is better reading the New Testament for itself and leaving this book and the author's hubris alone.

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I used to be a big fan of O'reilly until my eyes were opened to the false right/left paradigm used in American politics today.  I wouldn't read any of his material now days, but to each their own.

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I used to be a big fan of O'reilly until my eyes were opened to the false right/left paradigm used in American politics today.  I wouldn't read any of his material now days, but to each their own.

 

Hello drums...

I'm always surprised at people... not only here but in general... who find fault with O'Reilly and other Fox News people, saying how biased and misleading Fox News is... Without this becoming political, just let me say that I regularly watch several news channels, including Fox News.  I'm baffled because FNS commentators, including O'Reilly, always have an opposing view represented by well-known individuals as a counterpoint to their conservative narrative.

I never took him as being purposely dishonest... In his books he always maintains that he thoroughly searches resources...   So if Killing Jesus is not accurate, what of his other two... Killing Lincoln and Killing Kennedy... 

 

GG

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I'm always surprised at people... not only here but in general... who find fault with O'Reilly and other Fox News people, saying how biased...Fox News is... 

 

That's like saying MSNBC isn't biased.  I am surprised at anybody that wouldn't consider O'Reilly and Fox News biased.  You admitted in your post that they have a conservative narrative.  Isn't that a conservative bias?

 

From O'Reilly's own mouth - "Meantime, the anti-liberal Fox News Channel and the Wall Street Journal, whose editorial page is conservative, are both doing very well."

http://billoreilly.com/site/rd?satype=13&said=12&url=/newslettercolumn?pid=30129

 

If "anti-liberal" isn't biased, I don't know what is I guess.

 

I don't know if he is being purposefully dishonest either, but a strong bias on either side can be blinding.  I, for one, will never give the time of day to anyone who labels themselves "anti liberal" or "anti-conservative".

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Pogi... yes Fox is a conservative viewpoint, which everyone knows and they readily acknowledge...  but they have guests representing the liberal view for discussing current topics...

 

Sorry... we better get back on topic or we'll cause Ron's thread to be shut down for making it too political.

I haven't read Killing Jesus and don't plan to do so.

 

GG

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GG is right....grrrrr....

Let's keep this focused on the book not the politics of Mr. O'Reilly, et al.

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Hello drums...

I'm always surprised at people... not only here but in general... who find fault with O'Reilly and other Fox News people, saying how biased and misleading Fox News is... Without this becoming political, just let me say that I regularly watch several news channels, including Fox News.  I'm baffled because FNS commentators, including O'Reilly, always have an opposing view represented by well-known individuals as a counterpoint to their conservative narrative.

I never took him as being purposely dishonest... In his books he always maintains that he thoroughly searches resources...   So if Killing Jesus is not accurate, what of his other two... Killing Lincoln and Killing Kennedy... 

 

GG

That causes me wonder as well.  I am fairly versed in Lincoln and while I didn't find anything amiss I did find the book a nice airy narrative not often found in historical books.  It reminded me of Irving Stone's books.

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I used to be a big fan of O'reilly until my eyes were opened to the false right/left paradigm used in American politics today.  I wouldn't read any of his material now days, but to each their own.

 

FWIW, his books about Lincoln's death ("Killing Lincoln") and Kennedy's death ("Killing Kennedy") were relatively free of any political bent, and read more as a play-by-play of what happened.  I highly recommend them if you have any interest in that sort of thing.

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FWIW, his books about Lincoln's death ("Killing Lincoln") and Kennedy's death ("Killing Kennedy") were relatively free of any political bent, and read more as a play-by-play of what happened.  I highly recommend them if you have any interest in that sort of thing.

 

 

Kennedy and Lincoln both die? oh man, well, I  was going to read the books but now you just gave away the ending!  good going

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Hello drums...

I'm always surprised at people... not only here but in general... who find fault with O'Reilly and other Fox News people, saying how biased and misleading Fox News is... Without this becoming political, just let me say that I regularly watch several news channels, including Fox News.  I'm baffled because FNS commentators, including O'Reilly, always have an opposing view represented by well-known individuals as a counterpoint to their conservative narrative.

I never took him as being purposely dishonest... In his books he always maintains that he thoroughly searches resources...   So if Killing Jesus is not accurate, what of his other two... Killing Lincoln and Killing Kennedy... 

 

GG

I didn't say anything about Fox news being biased, or about O'Reilly being intentionally deceitful.  I believe he is a cog in a propaganda wheel that controls political discourse in the United States.  Everything is portrayed in terms of left/right/center or liberal/conservative or R/D.  I believe this is a divide and conquer strategy used by conspiring men to usurp our liberty. 

 

http://www.infowars.com/the-shill-world-order-pushers-of-the-false-left-right-paradigm/

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