Life Without A Temple Recommend

[Yep]

Wow...I know plenty of Mormon women who would hand you your head for less than what you managed to cram into that paragraph.

You are correct. I do believe that this rubs many women wrong. However, I do not think that it is incorrect. I believe that the current US view on the subject causes women, and men, to devalue the roles of women and view the roles of women with disdain. If people in general valued the roles equally then there would be no problem, we live in a society that holds the traditional roles of women of little true value and values the traditional roles of men with too high esteem. I don't view myself as somehow viewing women as inferior, I believe that my view raises women up. I believe that the traditional roles are divine. Our gender roles are grand and of wondrous design. I do not believe that either role is greater or lesser, they are equal and need to be held as such.

I suspect in the coming decades you are going to see the Church move farther and farther away from gender stereotyping. Yes, gender is important in the eternities -- not at all sure that gender stereotyping is however.

Our roles are fixed for a reason. The farther we move from the traditional roles, the less stable our family units become. History appears to support this. I believe that our roles are important in the eternities. Gender stereotyping is a valid aspect of existence, spiritual and temporal.

[Stone holm]

You are correct. I do believe that this rubs many women wrong. However, I do not think that it is incorrect. I believe that the current US view on the subject causes women, and men, to devalue the roles of women and view the roles of women with disdain. If people in general valued the roles equally then there would be no problem, we live in a society that holds the traditional roles of women of little true value and values the traditional roles of men with too high esteem. I don't view myself as somehow viewing women as inferior, I believe that my view raises women up. I believe that the traditional roles are divine. Our gender roles are grand and of wondrous design. I do not believe that either role is greater or lesser, they are equal and need to be held as such.

Our roles are fixed for a reason. The farther we move from the traditional roles, the less stable our family units become. History appears to support this. I believe that our roles are important in the eternities. Gender stereotyping is a valid aspect of existence, spiritual and temporal.

Yeah, not sure i can go with you on that, if we are talking about the traditional family as popularly conceived of a husband (male) and a wife (female) and kids living in their own home with the Father bringing home the only pay heck and the mother working at home with housekeeping and child rearing. That model is now a distinct minority estimated at around only 10% of American households. The problem is it has except for a brief period in the 20th Century been something of a myth and never actually applied to the poor.

[exmormonatheistofutah]

45 And charity suffereth long, and is kind, and envieth not, and is not puffed up, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

46 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, if ye have not charity, ye are nothing, for charity never faileth. Wherefore, cleave unto charity, which is the greatest of all, for all things must fail.

[ERayR]

45 And charity suffereth long, and is kind, and envieth not, and is not puffed up, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

46 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, if ye have not charity, ye are nothing, for charity never faileth. Wherefore, cleave unto charity, which is the greatest of all, for all things must fail.

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[Stone holm]

45 And charity suffereth long, and is kind, and envieth not, and is not puffed up, seeketh not her own, is not easily provoked, thinketh no evil, and rejoiceth not in iniquity but rejoiceth in the truth, beareth all things, believeth all things, hopeth all things, endureth all things.

46 Wherefore, my beloved brethren, if ye have not charity, ye are nothing, for charity never faileth. Wherefore, cleave unto charity, which is the greatest of all, for all things must fail.

Point being exactly what?

[xzyzer]

Wait a minute you mean god doesn't accept her because of what she did before she knew of the church? What the crap. Heavenly Father would never reject her from going to the Temple it's corrupted and twisted is what it is.

[rpn]

It isn't God rejecting her. It is the mortals who run ihe church not knowing how to resolve the issues of gender so that it does exactly like what He would want for the OP, considering the implications for the entire church of whatever choice mortals would make. If there comes a time that those mortal leaders know how He will resolve the issues, then they will no doubt clear the path to the temple for her. And in the meantime, she will not be denied any blessing of God, while she waits on the Lord and on the mortal leaders who are trying to figure out and carry out His will.

[halconero]

Wait a minute you mean god doesn't accept her because of what she did before she knew of the church? What the crap. Heavenly Father would never reject her from going to the Temple it's corrupted and twisted is what it is.

God loves her and accepts her. Temple ordinances are based on gender, including baptisms for the dead. As rpn said, the leaders of the Church have a limited understanding (ourselves as well) that comes from mortality, and are trying to figure out, through revelation, research and study, how to adapt a mortal situation to eternal concepts and ordinances.

[Tacenda]

God loves her and accepts her. Temple ordinances are based on gender, including baptisms for the dead. As rpn said, the leaders of the Church have a limited understanding (ourselves as well) that comes from mortality, and are trying to figure out, through revelation, research and study, how to adapt a mortal situation to eternal concepts and ordinances.

We shouldn't call any of our leaders prophets or apostles that don't have that direct communication with God. Or we shouldn't be expected to follow their every direct when the lines of communication are so muddled.

Wait a minute you mean god doesn't accept her because of what she did before she knew of the church? What the crap. Heavenly Father would never reject her from going to the Temple it's corrupted and twisted is what it is.

Humans tend to do that sort of thing.

[bluebell]

We shouldn't call any of our leaders prophets or apostles that don't have that direct communication with God. Or we shouldn't be expected to follow their every direct when the lines of communication are so muddled.

This is a very simplistic view of what a prophet and apostle is. We ALL have direct communication with God, yet how often have do we struggled with not knowing His will for us?

Go to the NT. How often did the apostles in that book of scripture struggle to know God's will? Does the fact that Peter and Paul argued over whether or not Christians needed to be circumcised mean that they weren't apostles or prophets?