What Is Lds Position On Psychology?

[EllenMaksoud]

Perhaps nothing else needs to be said, other than the title. But, I will say more. We know that certain things like Bi-polar, and Schizophrenia must be treated. However. I think that certain drugs used for Depression and Anxiety are way over prescribed and the use of them post 911 tripled. I also think that the drugs can actually interfere with diagnosis, treatment, and "cure" of certain conditions. ((IE 10) is causing this. I can't start a new paragraph. ) It is my opinion, that love, comforting, and acceptance could make a lot of work by counselors unnessesary. Much

[bluebell]

I know there are a lot of LDS members who are also psychologists, and that the LDS church recognizes that mental illnesses are legitimate illnesses with no shame or reason not to medically treat them.

I'm sure that there are times when the treatment is worse than the cure though, and that things are frequently misdiagnosed in that regard, and therefore sometimes overly medicated.

[thesometimesaint]

Perhaps nothing else needs to be said, other than the title. But, I will say more. We know that certain things like Bi-polar, and Schizophrenia must be treated. However. I think that certain drugs used for Depression and Anxiety are way over prescribed and the use of them post 911 tripled. I also think that the drugs can actually interfere with diagnosis, treatment, and "cure" of certain conditions. ((IE 10) is causing this. I can't start a new paragraph. ) It is my opinion, that love, comforting, and acceptance could make a lot of work by counselors unnessesary. Much

The Church favors the use of trained professionals in treating physical and psychological disorders.

The best therapists use a combination of drugs, which make a person feel normal, long enough for the cognitive therapy to take hold.

Everyone gets the Blues. However Clinical Depression is different, and if left untreated may result in early death.

Anxiety Disorders are common, and usually respond well to just cognitive therapy alone. Less common with Anxiety Disorders is the use of mild mood altering drugs.

Love, comforting, acceptance are basic human needs. But sometimes they are just not enough. Thus the need for trained professionals to help us over the really rough spots.

[Mark Beesley]

LDS Family Services hires psychologists. BYU has a psychology department.

So far as I am aware, the "Church" has no stated position on any facet of psychology.

[EllenMaksoud]

There are class action law suits regarding the use of certain medications. One it seems caused massive weight gain, and the other actually exacerbated a condition the person had been dealing with, without the use of medication all their life. The individual is not interested in litigation but is just trying to be heard so that these same things do not happen to someone else in the future.

I personally am aware that different psychological groups have different agendas, and some of these people inflict a lot of harm in counseling those in need of help to do things that have devastating effects in their lives, but serve those with agendas.

[Calm]

Love, comforting, acceptance are basic human needs. But sometimes they are just not enough.

And sometimes the lack of them is what is causing the issues to begin with and the individual does not have the skill or ability to find associations that can supply them with such at that point. Edited March 21, 2013 by calmoriah

[Ahab]

Perhaps nothing else needs to be said, other than the title. But, I will say more. We know that certain things like Bi-polar, and Schizophrenia must be treated. However. I think that certain drugs used for Depression and Anxiety are way over prescribed and the use of them post 911 tripled. I also think that the drugs can actually interfere with diagnosis, treatment, and "cure" of certain conditions. ((IE 10) is causing this. I can't start a new paragraph. ) It is my opinion, that love, comforting, and acceptance could make a lot of work by counselors unnessesary. Much

For the best treatment(s) the service provider should be able to distinuguish between our brain and our mind/spirit. People who think they're all the same thing can't always get at the root of the problem, to begin with, and they don't always know what is needed to make the "patient" better, either. Our problems aren't always related to making good moral decisions to reduce stress and feel at peace in our lives. Sometimes our brains can actually cause a lot of problems for us. Sometimes all we need is a good person to talk to, but at other times we need some medication. And that's all I have to say about that.

[tyler90az]

Here is an antidepressant for those with mild depression: http://www.marcandangel.com/2013/03/12/one-thing-you-must-stop-doing-to-be-happy/

[Calm]

There are class action law suits regarding the use of certain medications. One it seems caused massive weight gain, and the other actually exacerbated a condition the person had been dealing with, without the use of medication all their life. The individual is not interested in litigation but is just trying to be heard so that these same things do not happen to someone else in the future.

I personally am aware that different psychological groups have different agendas, and some of these people inflict a lot of harm in counseling those in need of help to do things that have devastating effects in their lives, but serve those with agendas.

There are dangers in anything that involves humans, which includes those who are motivated more by self gain than the desire to help others. There are organizations that are set up to help avoid abuse of clients, but if a client is not proactive about making accusations it can take some time to discover the bad ones.

There are medical doctors who cause problems that result legitimately in malpractice suits. However, the overall cost benefit of medicine is still in the positive column. I would say so with psychology as well.

Edited March 21, 2013 by calmoriah

[thesometimesaint]

And sometimes the lack of them is what is causing the issues to begin with and the individual does not have the skill or ability to find associations that can supply them with such at that point.

Agreed.

[thesometimesaint]

There are class action law suits regarding the use of certain medications. One it seems caused massive weight gain, and the other actually exacerbated a condition the person had been dealing with, without the use of medication all their life. The individual is not interested in litigation but is just trying to be heard so that these same things do not happen to someone else in the future.

I personally am aware that different psychological groups have different agendas, and some of these people inflict a lot of harm in counseling those in need of help to do things that have devastating effects in their lives, but serve those with agendas.

Every medication has side effects, even Aspirin. But we continue to use and find now ones because the positives outweigh the negatives.

[EllenMaksoud]

Getting too stirred up. Need to leave this discussion.

[Nathair/|\]

LDS Family Services hires psychologists. BYU has a psychology department.

So far as I am aware, the "Church" has no stated position on any facet of psychology.

I can confirm that, having been treated by a couple.

[LifeOnaPlate]

a good read on the topic:

http://www.amazon.com/Healing-Souls-Psychotherapy-Latter-day-Community/dp/0252028643

[cinepro]

This is a good read too.

The Depressing News About Antidepressants

Edited March 21, 2013 by cinepro

[cinepro]

As for an "official" view, I can't see anything on the Church website that would indicate the Church feels more or less sympathetic towards "psychology" than the general population.

And, like the general population, I suspect LDS tend to be more accepting of "psychology" when it supports our beliefs than when it contradicts them.

Edited March 21, 2013 by cinepro

[USU78]

Getting too stirred up. Need to leave this discussion.

Then you should, perhaps, next time not lead with an attack/absurd accusation.

[Calm]

Then you should, perhaps, next time not lead with an attack/absurd accusation.

It is a personal issue for Ellen, perhaps the thread should be closed as she has received her answer.

I don't see what is so absurd or accusing in her opening post or second post myself.

Edited March 21, 2013 by calmoriah

[Saints Alive]

I think you will find that the over-prescription of anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medicine is more due to family and general practice physicians than psychologists (who in most all cases can't prescribe medicine). If anything more people who are using anti-depressants need to be seeing psychologists as well.

[USU78]

It is a personal issue for Ellen, perhaps the thread should be closed as she has received her answer.

I don't see what is so absurd or accusing in her opening post or second post myself.

Context and posting history. Context being what it is in these days when self-identifying gays are still in full attack mode and getting all sorts of support.

[thesometimesaint]

I think you will find that the over-prescription of anti-depressants and anti-anxiety medicine is more due to family and general practice physicians than psychologists (who in most all cases can't prescribe medicine). If anything more people who are using anti-depressants need to be seeing psychologists as well.

Agreed. However when I was in the bizz I worked closely with a psychiatrist. It was never really a problem in getting the needed meds.

[Calm]

Context and posting history. Context being what it is in these days when self-identifying gays are still in full attack mode and getting all sorts of support.

I am clueless as to what you mean here and I believe I have read every post Ellen has made plus talked to her privately from time to time. I am thinking you may be misjudging here because this makes no sense.