BCSpace Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 A friendly ex Mormon that is:All in all, the Mormon church provided the sound moral structure my mother had wanted for us, and a circle of friends from stable, God-fearing families," Rubio writes in his book. "When we left the church a few years later, mostly at my instigation, we did so with gratitude for its considerable contribution to our happiness in those years."Rubio — a potential running mate to presumptive presidential nominee Mitt Romney, a Mormon — talks for the first time in his memoir about converting to the faith, a family trip to Provo and Salt Lake City to visit temple sites and how seriously he took his new religion."In contrast to my parents, I immersed myself in LDS theology, and understood it as well as an 8-year-old mind can," Rubio writes."Although my school grades were never impressive, I was a voracious reader, and I studied church literature and other sources of information to learn all I could about the church’s teachings."Rubio’s journey to Mormonism began when his family settled in "fascinatingly strange" Las Vegas in 1979. The family’s new home, on a cul-de-sac in a working-class neighborhood, was right across the street from his new friends, the Thiriot boys, who were Latter-day Saints."They were a close-knit family who were always doing things together," Rubio says. "They represented the kind of safe, respectable family life my parents wanted for us."The faith’s wholesomeness, its values and the community closeness that came with it drove Rubio, his mother, Oriala, and his sister, Veronica, to baptism. His father, Mario, didn’t convert, Rubio writes....................................While LDS values and morals drew the Rubios to the faith, Rubio says, it was the religion’s ban on tobacco, alcohol and coffee that made staying tough."Some of the church’s rules were difficult for my parents, especially my father, to abide by," Rubio says, adding that his dad, who never joined the LDS Church, had smoked since age 13 and worked as a bartender.Rubio says he chided his father for slinging booze, but also noted that Cuban coffee was a staple that neither parent would give up.Eventually, a friend from Rubio’s grade school who was Catholic piqued the future senator’s interest, and he began learning about the faith his mother grew up in. He said leaving the Mormon religion was his decision."We left the Mormon church with nothing but admiration for the place that had been our first spiritual home in Las Vegas and had been so generous to us," Rubio writes. "I still feel that way."http://www.sltrib.co...-faith.html.cspI had no idea. Feel free to also topically wander about the "difficulty" of keeping the WoW and retention, the definition of a real testimony, children's testimonies, etc. etc.
thesometimesaint Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Alcohol and Tobacco are two of the hardest addictions to overcome. Alcohol use is still socially acceptable, and while tobacco use is way down in this country in Asia particularly in China it is a growing menace.
mbh26 Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Did Rubio have his name removed from the rolls or is he still counted as LDS?
Storm Rider Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Did Rubio have his name removed from the rolls or is he still counted as LDS?These types of questions, quite prevalent among the unending plethora of complaints by ex-Mormons and anti-Mormons, have always been perplexing. Why does it matter? It really does not matter, but it is interesting how many people demand a strict relationship between only those people who go to church, totally active in the LDS Church, and all those who have moved on, don't attend church weekly, monthly, quarterly, annually, and any other qualifier they can dream up. Just curious how rigidly do Catholics maintain their membership rolls? Is there as much controversy over Catholic membership rolls as with LDS rolls? Why? I realize this takes this thread off-topic, but just curious if anyone can respond in a concise manner and then back to the topic at hand. It would be great to have both of these men in office.
BCSpace Posted June 19, 2012 Author Posted June 19, 2012 Romney could be assigned as his home teacher. I realize this takes this thread off-topicNo please, feel free. Anything in, implied, or questions raised by the article is topical.
thesometimesaint Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Are we electing a President and Vice President or a Home Teacher?
Buzzard Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Are we electing a President and Vice President or a Home Teacher?Theoretically, both. Though with the entourage that accompanies a POTUS anywhere he goes, getting home taught by Brother Romney would be an interesting experience. Maybe they could make Harry Reid his companion?
Somebodyz Posted June 19, 2012 Posted June 19, 2012 Didn't think he was even in the running to be the next VP, just hype for his book.
thesometimesaint Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Buzzard:LDS don't elect their Home Teacher.
Garden Girl Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 Didn't think he was even in the running to be the next VP, just hype for his book.Didn't think he was even in the running to be the next VP, just hype for his book.On the news this afternoon there was a clip where reporters specifically asked about the story that Rubio was not even being considered, and Romney answered that Rubio was being "thoroughly vetted" just like others...GG
Freedom Posted June 20, 2012 Posted June 20, 2012 I would think that the ideal candidate would not have ties to the lds church. I am just grateful that his gripe was with an aspect of our religion that is held in high esteem. His leaving demonstrated a weakness rather than a strength on their part.
Mark Beesley Posted June 29, 2012 Posted June 29, 2012 Cultural converts to the Church don't seem to stick around.
cdowis Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 We need to remember that WW issues are often related to culture -- how family and friends spend time together.
Ron Beron Posted June 30, 2012 Posted June 30, 2012 Are we electing a President and Vice President or a Home Teacher?That's a great "what if?"! How would you like to be person appointed to home teach the president and his family. You would have to get pass the Secret Service, etc. And what would you do at Christmas for a gift? Popcorn tins??
thesometimesaint Posted July 1, 2012 Posted July 1, 2012 Ron Beron:I've dealt with the Secret Service before. Very nice and polite gentlemen.Presidents/Vice Presidents are restricted to receiving less than $50 gifts. But I'm pretty sure I could think up something appropriate.
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