How Can We Convince Calmoriah To Watch "Johnny Lingo"?

[Calm]

Calmoriah will never get past the sentinels and angels that protect the throne of God without the knowledge contained in Johnny Lingo. Just sayin'.

Now you have me worried...

[BCSpace]

My price is far above rubies.

Well, I don't know about you specifically.......

.......but that's the point of Johnny Lingo.

Uh oh. I see he orders Mahana to go fetch some water. But lo! He helps her carry it back.

Edited April 27, 2012 by BCSpace

[BCSpace]

The actor who plays Johnny Lingo also appeared a couple of years earlier in two Star Trek TOS episodes with bit parts: The Changeling and Space Seed.

[Garden Girl]

Old movies don't lose their value or impact simply because they are old. A good movie is a good movie regardless of how long it has sat on the shelf. I remember watching a old movie, I think the name of it was "Snakes". It had this incredibly powerful scene where a woman sings "Going Home" in an insane asylum. Everyone quieted and listened. I will never forget that scene as long as I live; nor will I forget that wondeful song. It is a song I hope is sung at my funeral when that day comes.

Cal, if you ever want to have a good day or are feeling a little blue, Johnny Lingo would be a great movie to watch.

The movie was "The Snake Pit" starring Olivia de Haviland... and it indeed was excellent... I, too, remember the singing of "Going Home" as all the inmates stood and listened, longing for gentler days, and "home."

GG

[ERayR]

Tickling Mom in our house is forbidden due to it setting off my neurological/movement disorder....even thinking about it....ugh....!!!!!

So yes, that would probably work but the culprits would pay big time for their success...as in being woken up all night long to share in my lack of sleep at the very least.

If that happened to me they wouldn't dare go to sleep.

[Kenngo1969]

For what it's worth (and of course, your mileage may vary; I may be completely oblivious to something you feel is the most obvious, basest kind of emotional manipulation) but this thread piqued my interest, and I rewatched Johnny Lingo (the original version) with an eye toward the sort of manipulation of which Cal is suspicious ... and didn't see/sense any of it. Cheesy? Yeah, kinda. Dated? Sure. But manipulative? I didn't see any of that. Again, for what it's worth. (I found out that the guy who played Johnny Lingo was, like, 38 at the time; I said, "Yeah! Score one for the old guys! There's hope ... tenuous and fading fast, but still hope ... for me yet! )

Edited May 1, 2012 by Kenngo1969

[Calm]

I thought I mentioned that I didn't see Johnny Lingo in the category of some of the other films that are emotional tearjerkers, but simply having managed to miss out on seeing it when I should have seen it, it just seems appropriate now for me to continue the tradition. There are probably other films that fall in this category as well as it would appear the one with the oranges is pure ham and not going for the tears.

I am thinking of manipulative more along the lines of the "I will build you a rainbow" film. I can only judge the films by the written story, so perhaps the ones I've judged as too much aren't that bad, but they still are not the kind of movie I enjoy nor do I find them uplifting. I tend to categorize those kinds of films by a death being a crucial plot point like in the Last Leaf above. Another kind is when a sacrifice is made that ends up being counterproductive but who cares because it shows how much love there is.

There is the story of the bridge where the guy has to choose between the life of his child and those on a train...it is supposed to make you think of the sacrifice of the Father of his Son, I don't need a pretend story to make me feel what I should feel about a reality; I am not sure if it got made into a movie, but it is a common story about the kid who gives blood for his sister thinking he's going to die....that's the kind of stuff I feel manipulated by...over the top plot to trigger emotional reaction in place of thought or so it feels like to me. If people like them and find them uplifting, more power to them; I just end up resenting the experience. I'm petty that way I guess.

I don't like made up tragic stories no matter how well written, there is enough sorrow and pain in life I feel no need to go looking for pretend tragedy to make life more profound or understandable or whatever. I have the same issues with using pretend stories to teach the kids principles of the scriptures. Why don't we just tell them the scripture stories (that pet peeve goes back 35 years when I started to teach Primary and found out me and the manuals didn't always agree on how something should be taught).

Edited May 1, 2012 by calmoriah

[Kenngo1969]

Ah, well, then! Down with your defenses, woman!

[volgadon]

I don't like made up tragic stories no matter how well written, there is enough sorrow and pain in life I feel no need to go looking for pretend tragedy to make life more profound or understandable or whatever.

What are your thoughts on (semi)autobiographical novels about tragic stories?

[Calm]

If you mean the author tries to tell the story in a realistic way and not inflate the drama (unless it's done for fun instead of making them look like a victim), I think they are good. I have no problem with people sharing real experiences because others can learn from them. I figure that is what we will all be doing in the next life anyway since it is impossible to experience everything in this life so a lot of our learning will be through a vicarious sharing of others' experiences.

However, I probably won't read them at this point of my life. Used to read history a lot more and read tons of biographies growing up, but I have enough emotion going on in my life right now---and emotion is a very physical as well as mental experience for me----plus I suspect my medication makes me prone to turn on tears at the drop of a hat...which really annoys me....that I tend to avoid dealing with tragedy if I can manage it. I save up my emotional reserve/strength for friends and family who need it and who maybe I can actually help.

I know a lot of individuals enjoy good cries or feel uplifted by sad stories with socially redeeming messages and if someone else prefers that type of entertainment, then I would encourage them to seek it out. It is just not for me, at this point my literature is either academic or escapism.

[volgadon]

If you mean the author tries to tell the story in a realistic way and not inflate the drama (unless it's done for fun instead of making them look like a victim), I think they are good. I have no problem with people sharing real experiences because others can learn from them. I figure that is what we will all be doing in the next life anyway since it is impossible to experience everything in this life so a lot of our learning will be through a vicarious sharing of others' experiences.

However, I probably won't read them at this point of my life. Used to read history a lot more and read tons of biographies growing up, but I have enough emotion going on in my life right now---and emotion is a very physical as well as mental experience for me----plus I suspect my medication makes me prone to turn on tears at the drop of a hat...which really annoys me....that I tend to avoid dealing with tragedy if I can manage it. I save up my emotional reserve/strength for friends and family who need it and who maybe I can actually help.

I know a lot of individuals enjoy good cries or feel uplifted by sad stories with socially redeeming messages and if someone else prefers that type of entertainment, then I would encourage them to seek it out. It is just not for me, at this point my literature is either academic or escapism.

I was curious more than anything. I'm certainly not going to force-feed you melodramatic tear-jerkers, biographical or not. After what you've said, I definitely wouldn't want to overdo emotion in your case. Part of the reason I asked was that I've been rereading Bulgakov's "White Guard." The story takes place in Kiev during the Russian Civil War, so you can imagine some of the brutality involved in dozens of coups and counter-coups. Bulgakov lived through it and turned the experiences into a novel. What I do like is how it is a warm, human story of friends and family encountering the destruction of the world they knew and its values. The story ends on a hopeful note and there is a strong element of farce, as there is in any civil war. If it were merely a story of atrocities- or even tragedy- I would never have bothered.

[Calm]

I've tended to stay away from historical fiction because so many were more fiction and less historical and I get ticked off if the historical stuff is wrong, but loved the Standing on the Promises trilogy so have become more open to them. It sounds like something I may want to read sometime in the future when life gets a bit more stable (maybe about 10 years).

Edited May 1, 2012 by calmoriah