Sevenbak Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I found this to be of interest... It kind of slipped under the radar, but it makes sense, given what will eventually happen near there. Here's a snip:"The Mormon Church plans to build an electronic safe house in the Northland for the billions of birth certificates and other genealogical records it has been compiling around the world for almost a century.The 63,000-square-foot building is being designed to withstand the worst natural disasters and keep its computer servers cool and dry for several years should it lose outside power, all to ensure its trove of digital documents remains undamaged.“Without question, we have the largest single repository of this type of information,” said Russell D. Stay, senior vice president of Family Search. “We’ve been pursuing this a long time.”Construction is expected to begin by late fall in the Shoal Creek area, near Northeast Soccer Drive (roughly Northeast 76th Street) and Interstate 435. It is expected to be operational by early 2013."http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/06/3125342/mormon-church-plans-storage-center.html 2 Link to comment
Duncan Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 I found this to be of interest... It kind of slipped under the radar, but it makes sense, given what will eventually happen near there. Here's a snip:"The Mormon Church plans to build an electronic safe house in the Northland for the billions of birth certificates and other genealogical records it has been compiling around the world for almost a century.The 63,000-square-foot building is being designed to withstand the worst natural disasters and keep its computer servers cool and dry for several years should it lose outside power, all to ensure its trove of digital documents remains undamaged.“Without question, we have the largest single repository of this type of information,” said Russell D. Stay, senior vice president of Family Search. “We’ve been pursuing this a long time.”Construction is expected to begin by late fall in the Shoal Creek area, near Northeast Soccer Drive (roughly Northeast 76th Street) and Interstate 435. It is expected to be operational by early 2013."http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/06/3125342/mormon-church-plans-storage-center.htmlnifty and all but the word "operational" sounds too star wars, I find it disturbing Link to comment
Sevenbak Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 "I find your lack of faith disturbing." 1 Link to comment
Zakuska Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Yep, thems dingy Marmuns ur try'n ta tak uver the Worl! One death certificate at a time! Link to comment
altersteve Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "I find your lack of faith disturbing."I was just going to say this. Well played, sir. Link to comment
BookofMormonLuvr Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 You know I have to...1Tim1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith; so do. Link to comment
Zakuska Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 "early 2013"They are going to have to speed it up by from 1 to 6 months if they are going to make the Dec 2012 deadline. Link to comment
Sevenbak Posted September 8, 2011 Author Share Posted September 8, 2011 I was just going to say this. Well played, sir. Link to comment
mfbukowski Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Uh, that is awfully close to Adam Ondi Ahman, where all the records are to be- a few miles north of the temple site. Link to comment
zerinus Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 You know I have to...1Tim1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless genealogies, which minister questions, rather than godly edifying which is in faith; so do.You missed this one:1Cor 15:29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?How can they be "baptized for the dead" if they don't do no "genealogies for the dead"? Link to comment
volgadon Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 You know I have to...Much like you, I've been wanting to exicse them from Matthew 1 for years. Link to comment
mfbukowski Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 (edited) deleto maximo Edited September 8, 2011 by mfbukowski Link to comment
Zakuska Posted September 8, 2011 Share Posted September 8, 2011 Much like you, I've been wanting to exicse them from Matthew 1 for years.Our Bibles would be pretty thin if we excised those all together.Luke Chapter 3 and there goes nearly half of the OT. Link to comment
Pahoran Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Much like you, I've been wanting to exicse them from Matthew 1 for years.Oh, snap!Regards,Pahoran Link to comment
Danite3459 Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 "I find your lack of faith disturbing.""Everything is proceeding as I have foreseen" Elder Palpatine 2 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 "early 2013"They are going to have to speed it up by from 1 to 6 months if they are going to make the Dec 2012 deadline.It's a clever ploy. The enemies of the Church expect it to be ready in 2013 but when they attack in 2012 expecting no danger the Danites will lay a trap and President Monson will then laugh as he unleashes his fully armed and operational genealogy center. 3 Link to comment
The Nehor Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 (edited) Dupe Edited September 9, 2011 by The Nehor Link to comment
Calm Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 It's a clever ploy. The enemies of the Church expect it to be ready in 2013 but when they attack in 2012 expecting no danger the Danites will lay a trap and President Monson will then laugh as he unleashes his fully armed and operational genealogy center.I vote this is the best Star Wars reference yet.The rest of you should quit because you aren't going to top it. Link to comment
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I found this to be of interest... It kind of slipped under the radar, but it makes sense, given what will eventually happen near there. Here's a snip:"The Mormon Church plans to build an electronic safe house in the Northland for the billions of birth certificates and other genealogical records it has been compiling around the world for almost a century.The 63,000-square-foot building is being designed to withstand the worst natural disasters and keep its computer servers cool and dry for several years should it lose outside power, all to ensure its trove of digital documents remains undamaged.“Without question, we have the largest single repository of this type of information,” said Russell D. Stay, senior vice president of Family Search. “We’ve been pursuing this a long time.”Construction is expected to begin by late fall in the Shoal Creek area, near Northeast Soccer Drive (roughly Northeast 76th Street) and Interstate 435. It is expected to be operational by early 2013."http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/06/3125342/mormon-church-plans-storage-center.htmlYou mean our Church leaders are true believers? Link to comment
Sevenbak Posted September 9, 2011 Author Share Posted September 9, 2011 I vote this is the best Star Wars reference yet.The rest of you should quit because you aren't going to top it.Agreed. “I suggest a new strategy. Let the Nehor win.” Link to comment
BookofMormonLuvr Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 You missed this one:How can they be "baptized for the dead" if they don't do no "genealogies for the dead"?I believe I have discussed the topic of BFTD here at length. It would be useless to restate my thoughts on the subject again. I will only ask...Who are these "they" Paul is referring to- when in the rest of the verses of the chapter he is speaking of "us" and "we"? Why does he exchange pronouns at this juncture, and refer to "they" being baptized for the dead and not "we" being baptized for the dead? Link to comment
zerinus Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I believe I have discussed the topic of BFTD here at length. It would be useless to restate my thoughts on the subject again. I will only ask...Who are these "they" Paul is referring to- when in the rest of the verses of the chapter he is speaking of "us" and "we"? Why does he exchange pronouns at this juncture, and refer to "they" being baptized for the dead and not "we" being baptized for the dead?"They," as the previous verses make clear, refers to the Apostles:1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.11 Therefore whether it were I or they [i.e. the Apostles], so we preach, and so ye believed.12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?If the context is anything to go by, "they" refers to the Apostles, and by implication, to the other early Christians as well. 1 Link to comment
BookofMormonLuvr Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 "They," as the previous verses make clear, refers to the Apostles:1 Corinthians 15:9 For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.10 But by the grace of God I am what I am: and his grace which was bestowed upon me was not in vain; but I laboured more abundantly than they all: yet not I, but the grace of God which was with me.11 Therefore whether it were I or they [i.e. the Apostles], so we preach, and so ye believed.12 Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead?29 Else what shall they do which are baptized for the dead, if the dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the dead?If the context is anything to go by, "they" refers to the Apostles, and by implication, to the other early Christians as well.Your interpretation of the verses would lead one to believe that only the Apostles perform BFTD. Also, you left out a huge chunk of verses in order to offer your interpretation. 1 Link to comment
zerinus Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 Your interpretation of the verses would lead one to believe that only the Apostles perform BFTD.Well, I was replying to your question: Who are these "they" Paul is referring to- when in the rest of the verses of the chapter he is speaking of "us" and "we"? Why does he exchange pronouns at this juncture, and refer to "they" being baptized for the dead and not "we" being baptized for the dead? The answer is that he “exchanges pronouns” earlier on, and “they” refers to the Apostles; and since the Apostles taught and set the example for all the saints, it refers basically to Church members at that time. That would be the closest approximation for who “they” refers to, according to the context. Do you have a better suggestion?Also, you left out a huge chunk of verses in order to offer your interpretation.The “chunk” isn’t that big; and it occurs within the same context. The whole chapter is about the subject of the resurrection, and the context is all interrelated. Your objection doesn’t seem to be a serious one. Again, I ask, who else do you think “they” refers to, and on what basis? 1 Link to comment
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 I found this to be of interest... It kind of slipped under the radar, but it makes sense, given what will eventually happen near there. Here's a snip:"The Mormon Church plans to build an electronic safe house in the Northland for the billions of birth certificates and other genealogical records it has been compiling around the world for almost a century.The 63,000-square-foot building is being designed to withstand the worst natural disasters and keep its computer servers cool and dry for several years should it lose outside power, all to ensure its trove of digital documents remains undamaged.“Without question, we have the largest single repository of this type of information,” said Russell D. Stay, senior vice president of Family Search. “We’ve been pursuing this a long time.”Construction is expected to begin by late fall in the Shoal Creek area, near Northeast Soccer Drive (roughly Northeast 76th Street) and Interstate 435. It is expected to be operational by early 2013."http://www.kansascity.com/2011/09/06/3125342/mormon-church-plans-storage-center.htmlTo our naysayers; could it be that they are true believers, after all? Link to comment
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