The Seed of Abraham - the people of God whom He foreknew

[Calm]

On 6/6/2026 at 5:13 AM, mbh26 said:

The antediluvians had a far better understanding of the cosmos than we have now

How did they accomplish this?  Serious question.  If they did not have the level of technology we have, how did they learn of the physical nature of such?

[mbh26]

On 6/7/2026 at 2:45 AM, The Nehor said:

Because none of the readers back at that time thought they did.

The Israelites even at the time of Jesus had access to the book of Enoch.  The book of Enoch is quoted in the New Testament.  I find it hard to believe that people like Adam, Enoch, Noah, had no belief nor knowledge of the pre-existence.  The book of Enoch even says Noah was the angel Gabriel, an ark angel incarnate.  

[The Nehor]

3 hours ago, mbh26 said:

The Israelites even at the time of Jesus had access to the book of Enoch.  The book of Enoch is quoted in the New Testament.  I find it hard to believe that people like Adam, Enoch, Noah, had no belief nor knowledge of the pre-existence.  The book of Enoch even says Noah was the angel Gabriel, an ark angel incarnate.  

They had the books of Enoch at the time of Jesus because they were written between the 3rd century BCE through the the 1st century. They are pseudepigrapha. They were written at that time and attributed to Enoch. Even at that time the rabbis knew it didn’t actually come from Enoch. Also most of it was originally written in Aramaic which wouldn’t make sense for a hypothetical pre-flood language or if it was passed down for millenia. If it were passed down for millenia the original language (or the oldest copies we had access to) would be in Hebrew.