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[BCSpace]

Has anyone actually found something published by the Church that matches CNN's description of how we compare interracial marriage or was that just more yellow journalism?

[BlueDreams]

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Unfortunately race and cultural expections are closely related.

Not in my world, they're not. I would expect more cultural similarities between you and you nearest African-American neighbor than you would with a random white person in Finland. My Bio-dad, though black does not relate to many AA cultural expectations because they're not his.

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All fathers are expected to give their sons the "Birds and Bees" talk. It is black mother's who give their sons "The Talk' about interacting with white authority figures. I see that as a greater stress producer with mixed race parents than a same race one. Not being black, or having a black spouse, that may be a projection on my part, but I don't believe so.

Personally, I doubt it comes down to "the talk" in most households. Though my dad is black, I didn't grow up with him or in a black household period. What I do find is less of a talk and more of a different means to communicate about race period. My white friends/family speak of things very differently from my black/brown family members when it comes to race (generally speaking). For my bio-dad and step-mom who are both ethnic and racial minorities it's threaded throughout their stories. For example, my bio-dad, while driving through Provo, might talk about how when he first came to Provo he'd never see this many black people there. It's similar to being mormon in a place where there's very few mormons around, IMO. You talk about things differently, you expect ignorance from time to time, you work to keep that connection there, etc. It's just the way it is. My white family generally talk about race more like side-noted commentary, random odd ball points, and largely outside of themselves.


That stated, this is not always the case in either direction. And I think most don't have a problem. The only ones I would say have a problem are those that have very little meaningful social connection to people outside their racial/ethnic group. Or have learned to see things from another perspective as equally valid (people may say they do, doesn't mean they actually do it). This isn't based on stats, just personal experience.


With luv,
BD

[BlueDreams]

BC:
I think its extrapolation of ideas from the Kimball quote. It's still not correct, but not entirely baseless as some other things that have been stated in the media about mormons.


With luv,
BD

Edited by BlueDreams, 08 May 2012 - 01:20 PM.

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thesometimesaint, on 07 May 2012 - 07:52 AM, said:

KtG:

I don't believe we pander to it, but we do recognize it does exist.

Yes, it does, and in interesting places.  Our previous stake president was Japanese-American, and although he experienced racism directed at him because of his Japanese ancestry, especially in the form of being housed in his youth in one of those US concentration camps for persons of Japanese descent during WW2, he told me once that he felt that people should marry within their own race.

[BCSpace]

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I think its extrapolation of ideas from the Kimball quote. It's still not correct, but not entirely baseless as some other things that have been stated in the media about mormons.

Then Yellow Journalism it is.

[thesometimesaint]

Stargazer:

A truly sad time in the American experience. But NOTHING like the death camps of NAZI Germany.

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thesometimesaint, on 08 May 2012 - 03:49 PM, said:

Stargazer:

A truly sad time in the American experience. But NOTHING like the death camps of NAZI Germany.

Of course not.  Didn't say it was or that he thought of it that way.