The Second Hour

[juliann]

On 9/25/2023 at 6:52 PM, bluebell said:

I really REALLY struggle with Sunday school in our ward. RS Sundays are the bright spots in the month.  I don’t think it or EQ is going anywhere on Sundays.

Likewise, I don’t think they’ll change up primary either.  For one thing, most primaries are split between jr and sr primaries, with each taking turns in the primary room because there is not space for all to be together.  Also, teaching/entertaining 11 year olds and three year olds at the same time is tough.  Having them separate when possible makes sense, both in terms of cognitive development as well as space requirements.

 

I love RS, I mostly skip SS since they started the Come Follow Me stuff. It turned into a few quoted scriptures and everyone talking about themselves. It became about feelings rather than scripture. 

[bluebell]

20 minutes ago, juliann said:

I love RS, I mostly skip SS since they started the Come Follow Me stuff. It turned into a few quoted scriptures and everyone talking about themselves. It became about feelings rather than scripture. 

So true.  It's not that I don't want to know how a scripture applied in your life, but that's not what I want to spend SS learning.  I want to actually learn the scriptures so I can understand them better.

[Doctrine 612]

On 9/30/2023 at 1:15 PM, juliann said:

I love RS, I mostly skip SS since they started the Come Follow Me stuff. It turned into a few quoted scriptures and everyone talking about themselves. It became about feelings rather than scripture. 

Unfortunately this is nothing new, I see it here in our stakes as well.

I believe it mostly comes from what type of teacher you have and bishop.

 

Before the new schedule I taught Sunday school for 6 years then went to a teach every other Sunday with a partner to free up some time for my other calling. I will honk my own horn here, 😂. The bishop would make jokes that when I taught my class was hard to find a seat And when the other teacher taught you could always find a seat.

my style is teach the scriptures and the doctrine.

my partner was how does this make you feel.

My conclusion is that members are hungry and thirsty for knowledge of the scriptures.

[Rain]

4 hours ago, Doctrine 612 said:

Unfortunately this is nothing new, I see it here in our stakes as well.

I believe it mostly comes from what type of teacher you have and bishop.

It does depend on the teacher, but having been a gospel doctrine teacher till a couple of months ago I can tell you it is pretty difficult to teach lessons that are not feeling lessons using the Come Follow Me plans. Since the lessons were on scripture passages I skipped the plans for the most part and created my own lessons using 3 study bibles, Ben Spackman blog posts, and other sources about things like biblical poetry or context. But I had a lot of flexible time to study those things. Other teacher's don't have that kind of time or ability so relying only on the Come Follow Me plans can be difficult for some teachers to do any better.

4 hours ago, Doctrine 612 said:

 

Before the new schedule I taught Sunday school for 6 years then went to a teach every other Sunday with a partner to free up some time for my other calling. I will honk my own horn here, 😂. The bishop would make jokes that when I taught my class was hard to find a seat And when the other teacher taught you could always find a seat.

my style is teach the scriptures and the doctrine.

my partner was how does this make you feel.

My conclusion is that members are hungry and thirsty for knowledge of the scriptures.

I think that many are not hungry and thirsty because they don't know what study can be till a teacher introduces that to them. When I first started @juliann pointed me to some sources that made a huge difference in how I taught.

Edited October 6, 2023 by Rain

[Doctrine 612]

On 10/5/2023 at 10:05 PM, Rain said:

It does depend on the teacher, but having been a gospel doctrine teacher till a couple of months ago I can tell you it is pretty difficult to teach lessons that are not feeling lessons using the Come Follow Me plans. Since the lessons were on scripture passages I skipped the plans for the most part and created my own lessons using 3 study bibles, Ben Spackman blog posts, and other sources about things like biblical poetry or context. But I had a lot of flexible time to study those things. Other teacher's don't have that kind of time or ability so relying only on the Come Follow Me plans can be difficult for some teachers to do any better.

I think that many are not hungry and thirsty because they don't know what study can be till a teacher introduces that to them. When I first started @juliann pointed me to some sources that made a huge difference in how I taught.

During one of my lessons on 1cor 10:4

4 And did all drink the same spiritual drink: for they drank of that spiritual Rock that followed them: and that Rock was Christ.
 

“The rock that followed”

I shared the story of the rolling rock that looked like a beehive that when the people would sing to it the rock would give them water.

it’s a old Jewish tradition.

one member said that the story sounded to far fetch. I responded with and the Red Sea parting the piller of fire the cloud for cover and a man rising from the dead is ok but the rock story is where you stop. 😆.

he started to laugh in a joyful way and we all had a great exchange. The whole meeting went well.

the next lesson coming up is skipping a good lesson on doing the right thing for the wrong reason. Phil ch 1

Always use the lesson manual for good questions but teaching the history of the scriptures and the situation behind them helps the students dive deeper.

Edited October 10, 2023 by Doctrine 612