Need prayers.

[Dario_M]

3 minutes ago, Calm said:

The sun is coming up, so my brain is finally ready to sleep.  (It prefers to do things the reverse that everyone else does, it seems at times…either that or I have vampire DNA)

Hahahaha. 🤣 really? That's interesing. Did you always had that problem?? Not that that is really a problem perse. We are all differend right. ... 

Edited August 4, 2023 by Dario_M

[Dario_M]

The most of the nice people that have helped me on here last night are sleeping on the moment right now. 

[Tacenda]

6 hours ago, Calm said:

Look, your parents want you to be safe.  It would hurt them more for you to be harmed than to be disappointed all isn’t as good in your life as you told them.  Don’t lock yourself into not asking them for help.  Not saying that is the only way (talk to your bishops), just keep it as a possibility in your mind.  The spirit can better inspire you if you don’t make up your mind first you aren’t ever going to do something.  You could try to think about a way you could stay with them that could make their life easier so it’s a win win for both of you.  Is there something they want to do that you could help with, for example.  Even if you have health issues that limit you (are you feeling physically better lately?), maybe there are still things you could help out with a little at a time.

☝️💯

[Dario_M]

4 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

☝️💯

Yeah she was right indeed. 

[Calm]

47 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Did you always had that problem?

I have had it for a couple of decades. As a kid it was more like 1 or 2 am if I was allowed to wake up on my own. In summer time I often don’t go to sleep till 8 or 9 am. I also tend to sleep over ten hours from January till it warms up.  I naturally don’t sleep deeply and it gets worse the older I get, so tend to need more hours, but have no clue why I sleep during the day…unless it is just my body adapting to the higher than usual restlessness I get at night during too warm of nights (I sleep best in cold, very dark rooms).  The restlessness is genetic, but I am the only one in the family who sleeps best after the sun rises.  Luckily my husband is a morning person, so he got the kids off to school while I always took night duty.  You can also get a lot of housework done in the middle of the night (as long as it’s not too noisy) because there are no distractions or interruptions. I also used to read all night…still do, just online plus watch too many videos and play games these days.  Not great for good sleep hygiene, but trying to force myself to sleep never worked and just makes the restlessness worse, so I gave up trying.

Edited August 4, 2023 by Calm

[Dario_M]

9 minutes ago, Calm said:

I have had it for a couple of decades, every summer.

Yeah in the summer it get's so light early in the morning. So this also happends in Utah? In the Netherlands i had that problem a lot as well. I didn't liked it i must admit.😇 Here in Portugal it's not so much a problem. 

And how do you mannaged it in the winter then? Because then it's stays dark longer. 

Edited August 4, 2023 by Dario_M

[Calm]

7 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Yeah in the summer it get's so light early in the morning. So this also happends in Utah? In the Netherlands i had that problem a lot as well. I didn't liked it i must admit.😇 Here in Portugal it's not so much a problem. 

And how do you mannaged it in the winter then? Because then it's stays dark longer. 

It isn’t light so much as temperature.  It stayed lighter and got earlier much more when we lived in Canada, but it was cool and while my sleep got really screwed up, it wasn’t completely reversed during summers.  I did hibernate more during winter and had problems with depression after Christmas.  As soon as we moved to Utah in the heat, I was getting energized around 9 pr 10 PM (we moved in July….it has been 20 years as of last month) and winding down as the sun came up.

The hardest thing is trying to remember to call people before the business closes because my brain starts working around four pm, I get something to eat and am just ready to talk to people when their office closes, lol.

[Tacenda]

10 minutes ago, Calm said:

It isn’t light so much as temperature.  It stayed lighter and got earlier much more when we lived in Canada, but it was cool and while my sleep got really screwed up, it wasn’t completely reversed during summers.  I did hibernate more during winter and had problems with depression after Christmas.  As soon as we moved to Utah in the heat, I was getting energized around 9 pr 10 PM (we moved in July….it has been 20 years as of last month) and winding down as the sun came up.

The hardest thing is trying to remember to call people before the business closes because my brain starts working around four pm, I get something to eat and am just ready to talk to people when their office closes, lol.

Sleep is everything. Sorry you've suffered for so long with this. 

[Calm]

34 minutes ago, Tacenda said:

Sleep is everything. Sorry you've suffered for so long with this. 

There are so many worse things people have to deal with.  I have always had a great support in my husband and kids, and now grandkids.

[Dario_M]

Dear guys. A had another hour of sleep. 🥳

[Dario_M]

1 hour ago, Calm said:

It isn’t light so much as temperature.  It stayed lighter and got earlier much more when we lived in Canada, but it was cool and while my sleep got really screwed up, it wasn’t completely reversed during summers.  I did hibernate more during winter and had problems with depression after Christmas.  As soon as we moved to Utah in the heat, I was getting energized around 9 pr 10 PM (we moved in July….it has been 20 years as of last month) and winding down as the sun came up.

That is so interesting. You're the first person who explained me a sleep cycle like that. I hope this cycle doesn't botther you all to much though. 

1 hour ago, Calm said:

The hardest thing is trying to remember to call people before the business closes because my brain starts working around four pm, I get something to eat and am just ready to talk to people when their office closes, lol.

Aaawh though.

I can't eat anything in the morning. But some people can. They say it's healty. Like those 2 neighbors i was talking about from this house. They where barbequing on 6:00. I don't think that's all to healty though if i may be honest.  

[Dario_M]

1 hour ago, Tacenda said:

Sleep is everything. Sorry you've suffered for so long with this. 

Excatly this. ⬆️

[Dario_M]

Thank you Pogi. The situation is stabel again. I feel that i will get some great sleep tonight. 

[Calm]

6 hours ago, Dario_M said:

Thank you Pogi. The situation is stabel again. I feel that i will get some great sleep tonight. 

Use white noise if there is noise keeping you up.  May not help drown out everything, but I find it very useful even with roadwork outside my house.  I use a thunderstorm setting.  There are extended versions of white and other ‘color’ background noise on some music services.  There are some great apps that are not too expensive as well.  Currently I just tell Alexa to play “thunderstorms” and she is apparently using a particular service of sleep sounds.  It has a great balance of intermittent lower tones (thunder) with the constant lighter sound of rain.  I find if the noise is too consistent, I start listening for any patterns in it.  The randomness of the thunder allows me to ignore it.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Calm

[MorningStar]

I'm praying for you. 

[Vanguard]

4 hours ago, Calm said:

Use white noise if there is noise keeping you up.  May not help drown out everything, but I find it very useful even with roadwork outside my house.  I use a thunderstorm setting.  There are extended versions of white and other ‘color’ background noise on some music services.  There are some great apps that are not too expensive as well.

This I agree with though it has to be the white noise option. Any other setting has me listening intently for the track to repeat rather than spending my energies getting to sleep. ; )

[Calm]

27 minutes ago, Vanguard said:

This I agree with though it has to be the white noise option. Any other setting has me listening intently for the track to repeat rather than spending my energies getting to sleep. ; )

Exactly, any pattern that repeats bugs me.  That is why I always used a box fan in the past instead of those old sound machines that were probably at most a 5 minute loop. I do manage okay if it is 20 minutes or longer, though the little blip that goes quiet and then loud again as it restarts can wake me up unless I am deep (I put the sound tunes on repeat and have them go all night).

So my body has been trained to not only need noise to sleep, but moving air…which it would have eventually as my temp control has gone completely wonky.

PS:  for those with temp control issues, I highly, highly  recommend the Bedjet; the quality of my sleep went way up and I can sleep for several hours at a time as long as it’s not a restless night.  Without it, I start out with freezing cold feet that take forever to warm up enough so I can sleep and within an hour or two I am waking up drenched in sweat, now that only happens if the Bedjet gets accidentally turned off.  It is, unfortunately, expensive.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Calm

[Dario_M]

9 hours ago, Calm said:

Use white noise if there is noise keeping you up.

 

I aften use a live stream. Mostely from a place in the US. A live stream of a lovely garden. I just had one from a garden in Alabama. In daytime i hear the birds and in nighttime i hear the crickets and other insects (wich i hear in my room anyway because we have a cockroaches problem in the house, and i hear them crawling!🪳😭) and racoons. The time there is offcourse always differend then the time there so that always fascinates me. But most important ... it helps me sleep. 

9 hours ago, Calm said:

 May not help drown out everything, but I find it very useful even with roadwork outside my house.  I use a thunderstorm setting.  There are extended versions of white and other ‘color’ background noise on some music services.  There are some great apps that are not too expensive as well.  Currently I just tell Alexa to play “thunderstorms” and she is apparently using a particular service of sleep sounds.  It has a great balance of intermittent lower tones (thunder) with the constant lighter sound of rain.  I find if the noise is too consistent, I start listening for any patterns in it.  The randomness of the thunder allows me to ignore it.

How interesting. My ex also used those thunderstorm sounds. Bevore sleeping. And it really helps indeed. I always love those cricket sounds. They are my favorite. This kinds of thinks are so new. In the old days we didn't had those did we? 😉 

I didn't know that you've even apps available of those sounds. And that you need to pay for them. May i be so free to ask how much such an app costs? 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Dario_M

[Dario_M]

6 hours ago, MorningStar said:

I'm praying for you. 

Thank you Morning star. This night i had way better sleep. 

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Dario_M said:

 

I aften use a live stream. Mostely from a place in the US. A live stream of a lovely garden. I just had one from a garden in Alabama. In daytime i hear the birds and in nighttime i hear the crickets and other insects (wich i hear in my room anyway because we have a cockroaches problem in the house, and i hear them crawling!🪳😭) and racoons. The time there is offcourse always differend then the time there so that always fascinates me. But most important ... it helps me sleep. 

How interesting. My ex also used those thunderstorm sounds. Bevore sleeping. And it really helps indeed. I always love those cricket sounds. They are my favorite. This kinds of thinks are so new. In the old days we didn't had those did we? 😉 

I didn't know that you've even apps available of those sounds. And that you need to pay for them. May i be so free to ask how much such an app costs? 

I use MyNoise. It looks like it is free, but I did an in app purchase to make it work better for me to customize sounds (high pitched noises like birds wake me up so I remove them while increasing the bass/rumble type of sounds).  I think I spent $5 or $10, not much.

I would love to do beach or a forest sound with a stream and animals on it and then just try to relax into sleep by imagining walking through the scene, taking a hike without getting sweaty or blisters sounds ideal to me, but for some reason they create images in my mind that make me dizzy even though not the least problem in real life…I think I am naturally impatient and tend to speed up the movement enough my inner eye can’t track well enough.  One of these days I need to do research on that and see if it is purely psychosomatic or if what we imagine we see is processed by the brain pretty much like the light images that hits our eyes. 

Edited August 5, 2023 by Calm

[Dario_M]

5 hours ago, Calm said:

I use MyNoise. It looks like it is free, but I did an in app purchase to make it work better for me to customize sounds (high pitched noises like birds wake me up so I remove them while increasing the bass/rumble type of sounds).  I think I spent $5 or $10, not much.

 

Yeah that's not much indeed. In Euro's it must be the same. $10 is also around 10€. Sounds really interested. Though...a bit complicated. 

5 hours ago, Calm said:

I would love to do beach or a forest sound with a stream and animals on it and then just try to relax into sleep by imagining walking through the scene, taking a hike without getting sweaty or blisters sounds ideal to me, but for some reason they create images in my mind that make me dizzy even though not the least problem in real life…I think I am naturally impatient and tend to speed up the movement enough my inner eye can’t track well enough.

Is that so? I can imagine it a bit indeed. I also have that problem a little. But i still love it a lot. And it's a live you know. Everything that you year is really happening. But the downsite of this is that some animals make way to loud noises. And that can be a bit annoying when you're trying to sleep. 🤫

5 hours ago, Calm said:

 One of these days I need to do research on that and see if it is purely psychosomatic or if what we imagine we see is processed by the brain pretty much like the light images that hits our eyes. 

Ooh i'm sure it is so. It bound to be. 

[Calm]

8 hours ago, Dario_M said:

Sounds really interested. Though...a bit complicated. 

It does sound that way, but it is pretty simple. You just download the sounds you like, they provide samples to help choose.  The sounds are groups of sounds, in essence songs with a number of instruments and voices included, but an instrument might be water or wind blowing through trees and the voices birds chirping.

 When you click on them it brings up a screen that divides the sound into nine, maybe ten parts with a slider for each one. For thunderstorms, there could be two or three sliders for thunder with one slider for long rumbles and another for shorter booms, 4 sliders for rain sounds like one sounding as if hitting a rooftop and other hitting leaves, one or two for animal sounds like birds and crickets, another for wind or something, and so on. For Tibetan temple bells, they include a number of wooden bells of different tones and may include some chanting as well (I love that sound, but it is not conducive to sleep, so it has been awhile since I listened to it and don’t remember all the specifics).  The wave ones has different wave sounds, crashing waves and soft ones and several others, a couple for wind as in stronger gusts and light breezes, a couple of different birds.  There are space sounds and pure music tones, trains, fans, different machines like lawn mowers and typewriters. Hundreds of choices that can then each be easily modified.  

You can either play it as it is or just raise or lower the volume for any part you want of the total sound and then save that version of the sound under another name if you want to reuse it.   

You also have the options of having the volumes fixed or “animated” which means each independently gets slowly louder and softer.  I tend to stay with fixed as animated means sounds I want completely eliminated like bird sounds that wake me up may still fade in and out.

Sounds can be combined as well, I have one favorite version which has two different storms and then a beach sound grouped together.

Edited August 5, 2023 by Calm

[Dario_M]

17 hours ago, Calm said:

It does sound that way, but it is pretty simple. You just download the sounds you like, they provide samples to help choose.  The sounds are groups of sounds, in essence songs with a number of instruments and voices included, but an instrument might be water or wind blowing through trees and the voices birds chirping.

Okay yeah. That sounds lovely. 

17 hours ago, Calm said:

 When you click on them it brings up a screen that divides the sound into nine, maybe ten parts with a slider for each one. For thunderstorms, there could be two or three sliders for thunder with one slider for long rumbles and another for shorter booms, 4 sliders for rain sounds like one sounding as if hitting a rooftop and other hitting leaves, one or two for animal sounds like birds and crickets, another for wind or something, and so on. For Tibetan temple bells, they include a number of wooden bells of different tones and may include some chanting as well (I love that sound, but it is not conducive to sleep, so it has been awhile since I listened to it and don’t remember all the specifics).  The wave ones has different wave sounds, crashing waves and soft ones and several others, a couple for wind as in stronger gusts and light breezes, a couple of different birds.  There are space sounds and pure music tones, trains, fans, different machines like lawn mowers and typewriters. Hundreds of choices that can then each be easily modified.  

Woow so many opitions. That's cool. 

17 hours ago, Calm said:

You can either play it as it is or just raise or lower the volume for any part you want of the total sound and then save that version of the sound under another name if you want to reuse it.   

You also have the options of having the volumes fixed or “animated” which means each independently gets slowly louder and softer.  I tend to stay with fixed as animated means sounds I want completely eliminated like bird sounds that wake me up may still fade in and out.

Sounds can be combined as well, I have one favorite version which has two different storms and then a beach sound grouped together.

This all sounds prity good i find. 

[jpv]

On 8/3/2023 at 8:46 PM, Dario_M said:

Guys. I'm having a problem. Normaly i would be sleeping right now. But not this night. I'm kinda in big problems. And need your prayers. A lot. I think i'm even in danger. You guys know me... i'm not a troll.... this message is serious. I just fear for my life. For everything. I saw my dad today. After a whole month. Finaly because i miss my family. I didn't spoke to my mom for a long time. While we live so close. I miss her. I did say that i live in Charneca right? After my grandma kicked me out i've moved here. Can you guys pray for me. That everything will be allright at some point. Can you guys please do that for me? 

Yes! Definitely 🙏

[Tacenda]

On 8/4/2023 at 8:02 AM, Calm said:

I have had it for a couple of decades. As a kid it was more like 1 or 2 am if I was allowed to wake up on my own. In summer time I often don’t go to sleep till 8 or 9 am. I also tend to sleep over ten hours from January till it warms up.  I naturally don’t sleep deeply and it gets worse the older I get, so tend to need more hours, but have no clue why I sleep during the day…unless it is just my body adapting to the higher than usual restlessness I get at night during too warm of nights (I sleep best in cold, very dark rooms).  The restlessness is genetic, but I am the only one in the family who sleeps best after the sun rises.  Luckily my husband is a morning person, so he got the kids off to school while I always took night duty.  You can also get a lot of housework done in the middle of the night (as long as it’s not too noisy) because there are no distractions or interruptions. I also used to read all night…still do, just online plus watch too many videos and play games these days.  Not great for good sleep hygiene, but trying to force myself to sleep never worked and just makes the restlessness worse, so I gave up trying.

I watched a video on FB today, with a baby crying and the mom grabs a blow dryer and turns it on near the crib and that baby was out like a light!