President Hinckley: "Bring Your Good" and Conversion

[3DOP]

5 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

A question about terminology:  By "personal" I meant a resurrected being with a body.  Perhaps you were using it differently.

Wikipedia,"Transcendence":   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transcendence_(philosophy)

I had quite a long discussion with a Catholic priest about the PRESENT status of Jesus' resurrected body, today, right now.  Does it still exist?

If not what happened to it?  Where is it? 

These are the kinds of logical problems that arise in this description of God being "transcendent" AND immanent/ personal.

But I agree we cannot know really anything about how God does His thing, yes it is legitimately a "mystery".  That's fine but in that case we should just leave the topic alone and not pretend we have the answer.

Hi. Mark.

Catholics are not materialists, as you know. I was using the word, "personal" differently than you apparently do/did. 

I make no pretense to say "we have the answer" as to how the things Catholics believe in work. I am just saying what we must believe, if we would be consistent with what the Catholic Church has taught. I do not concern myself with how God does what my faith says he does. If philosophy says God cannot be immanent and transcendent, I do not even know. I believe in order to understand, not the other way around.

 

 

 

[mfbukowski]

On 9/19/2022 at 2:02 PM, Navidad said:

This is a good day! We are agreeing with each other! I always regret when differences in affiliation or life experiences separate folks. I admire you and your amazing life's journey. In some ways perhaps I understand its breadth more than most others on this forum.

I do believe that some times our LDS friends are too quick to attribute Hellenism as the source of beliefs that became institutionalized Christianity. It seems to me to be a means by which those same beliefs and the associated institutions can be either dismissed or justifying a restoration back to a truer form of orthodoxy. If there was a need for either reformation or restoration, it may have been a need for an internal restoration as it seems the brilliant Dutch Catholic scholar Erasmus suggested. I find it similar to what I would suggest about the SBC - Southern Baptist Convention. I hope that makes some sense even if you don't agree with it. I also think we are more alike in terms of our thoughts about synergism versus monergism, which might be a discussion for another day. Methinks our LDS friends would agree with us on that, but it is for them to speak about that for themselves. Best to you. I better quit while we are still agreeing! 😀

Shhhhhhh....

Don't tell anyone but we can hear what you are saying....  🤔 

 

[Niblo]

On 9/30/2022 at 2:53 AM, 3DOP said:

Agreed, Niblo. Catholics can not correctly believe that deified creatures can be elevated to the status of the Uncreated One God.

I fleshed this out on a later post that you may have missed, which was aimed in particular at our LDS friends who could easily misunderstand such an unqualified reply.

By the way, welcome to the board.

3DOP

Greetings,

Thank you for your welcome.

I kept my post brief, because I knew you'd be coming back with a fuller reply (which I have now read).

By the way, I notice that certain posts are marked with a green square, bearing a number.  What is the purpose of these squares, and how does one add to the number?

Blessings.

 

 

[mfbukowski]

1 hour ago, Niblo said:

Greetings,

Thank you for your welcome.

I kept my post brief, because I knew you'd be coming back with a fuller reply (which I have now read).

By the way, I notice that certain posts are marked with a green square, bearing a number.  What is the purpose of these squares, and how does one add to the number?

Blessings.

 

 

They just refer to how many posts you have made. Nobody cares. I don't think anybody really knows more than that.  They just appeared one day 

Oh, and welcome!   😎

 

[Niblo]

44 minutes ago, mfbukowski said:

They just refer to how many posts you have made. Nobody cares. I don't think anybody really knows more than that.  They just appeared one day 

Oh, and welcome!   😎

 

Ahhh....thank you.

Oh, and for your welcome! 😉😂

[Calm]

1 hour ago, Niblo said:

Ahhh....thank you.

Oh, and for your welcome! 😉😂

If it is in the lower right corner, those indicate likes/reputation points.  When you have 25 posts, your replies will start showing the option and you will be able to give likes/rep points to others.

[Niblo]

21 minutes ago, Calm said:

If it is in the lower right corner, those indicate likes/reputation points.  When you have 25 posts, your replies will start showing the option and you will be able to give likes/rep points to others.

Thank you. I wondered if that was its purpose; but I couldn't see a way to 'like' your post.......not that you deserved it, of course 😉.

Blessings.

[Niblo]

26 minutes ago, Calm said:

If it is in the lower right corner, those indicate likes/reputation points.  When you have 25 posts, your replies will start showing the option and you will be able to give likes/rep points to others.

One most question: How do I edit my posts?  Cheers 👍

[InCognitus]

3 hours ago, Niblo said:

One most question: How do I edit my posts?  Cheers 👍

You will be able to edit your posts after your 25th post.  

[Niblo]

20 minutes ago, InCognitus said:

You will be able to edit your posts after your 25th post.  

That's grand, thank you 🎖.

Blessings.

[Calm]

You will be able to start threads too outside of Social Hall.

[Niblo]

11 hours ago, Calm said:

You will be able to start threads too outside of Social Hall.

Thank you, Calm.  Ain't life grand!

Blessings.