nuclearfuels Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 When people who served as MIssion Presidents and Mission Mothers during mortality die, do they serve in similar callings in the Spirit World? e.g. if you were a mission presidend in Dallas 20 years before you died, would you serve there in the Spirit World, or over a different Spirt World mission - or as a General Authority that mission presidnets report to? This begs the question: are there branches, ward, stakes, auxilliaries and presidencies who lead those different groups, in the Spirit World? Are there Quorums of Seventy, a Quorum of the Twelve, a First Presidency, General SUnday School, Releif Society, Primary Presidencies? I imagine the cases is: yes, there is such an order since God/s House is a House of Order and the Savior organized the missionary work in the Spirit World after His Crucifixion and before His Resurrection. What do you think? While you may not know the factual answer, I value your opinion and hope to hear your best guess
Fether Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 1 hour ago, nuclearfuels said: When people who served as MIssion Presidents and Mission Mothers during mortality die, do they serve in similar callings in the Spirit World? e.g. if you were a mission presidend in Dallas 20 years before you died, would you serve there in the Spirit World, or over a different Spirt World mission - or as a General Authority that mission presidnets report to? This begs the question: are there branches, ward, stakes, auxilliaries and presidencies who lead those different groups, in the Spirit World? Are there Quorums of Seventy, a Quorum of the Twelve, a First Presidency, General SUnday School, Releif Society, Primary Presidencies? I imagine the cases is: yes, there is such an order since God/s House is a House of Order and the Savior organized the missionary work in the Spirit World after His Crucifixion and before His Resurrection. What do you think? While you may not know the factual answer, I value your opinion and hope to hear your best guess I imagine there is a whole different organization. When you are called, you are given stewardship over a geographical area or a demographic of people. I don’t know that that extends into the spirit world 1
Popular Post Metis_LDS Posted July 10, 2021 Popular Post Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) This is from President Heber C. Kimball, Made in the Tabernacle, Great Salt Lake City, December 4, 1856. REMARKS AT THE FUNERAL OF PRESIDENT JEDEDIAH M. GRANT I quote what Heber Kimball reported that President Grant said on his deathbed. "He said to me, brother Heber, I have been into the spirit world two nights in succession, and, of all the dreads that ever came across me, the worst was to have to again return to my body, though I had to do it. But O, says he, the order and government that were there! When in the spirit world, I saw the order of righteous men and women; beheld them organized in their several grades, and there appeared to be no obstruction to my vision; I could see every man and woman in their grade and order. I looked to see whether there was any disorder there, but there was none; neither could I see any death nor any darkness, disorder or confusion. He said that the people he there saw were organized in family capacities; and when he looked at them he saw grade after grade, and all were organized and in perfect harmony. He would mention one item after another and say, “Why, it is just as brother Brigham says it is; it is just as he has told us many a time.” And for you gardeners he also said. In regard to gardens, says brother Grant, “I have seen good gardens on this earth, but I never saw any to compare with those that were there. I saw flowers of numerous kinds, and some with from fifty to a hundred different colored flowers growing upon one stalk.” Edited July 10, 2021 by Metis_LDS Added 5
Metis_LDS Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 (edited) One would think missionary work would be easy in the spirit world. I think it will be difficult to get some to admit that they were wrong or that they were blinded by the world. So overcoming pride will take much effort. Edited July 10, 2021 by Metis_LDS correction 2
Jason_Allred Posted July 10, 2021 Posted July 10, 2021 10 hours ago, Metis_LDS said: One would think missionary work would be easy in the spirit world. I think it will be difficult to get some to admit that they were wrong or that they were blinded by the world. So overcoming pride will take much effort. Even the devil and his angels have testimonies of the truth (James 2:19). But I think that the ultimate goal of missionary work is conversion rather than testimony. I agree that gaining a testimony of what is true will be easier in the spirit world, but letting Christ change us because of that testimony is a harder process. I think it may be even harder in the spirit world because mortality is the prime environment for change--where we can act and choose in faith rather than being compelled by knowledge.
Glenn101 Posted July 11, 2021 Posted July 11, 2021 8 hours ago, Jason_Allred said: Even the devil and his angels have testimonies of the truth (James 2:19). But I think that the ultimate goal of missionary work is conversion rather than testimony. I agree that gaining a testimony of what is true will be easier in the spirit world, but letting Christ change us because of that testimony is a harder process. I think it may be even harder in the spirit world because mortality is the prime environment for change--where we can act and choose in faith rather than being compelled by knowledge. Alma 34:34 seems to agree with you. Quote Ye cannot say, when ye are brought to that awful crisis, that I will repent, that I will return to my God. Nay, ye cannot say this; for that same spirit which doth possess your bodies at the time that ye go out of this life, that same spirit will have power to possess your body in that eternal world.
teddyaware Posted July 12, 2021 Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 8:58 PM, Glenn101 said: Alma 34:34 seems to agree with you. So I’m guessing you believe the only deceased individuals who will be able to repent and accept Christ in the spirit world will be those who were already in the process of repenting and turning to Christ at the time of their deaths?
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