2BizE Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I don't believe in this demonic possession hocus pocus. I do believe in mental illness including schizophrenia that can cause people to act very strangly. I believe people still do not fully understand the human mind, and ancient peoples certainly did not, thus the demonic possession became a way to describe mental illness.
OGHoosier Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I do believe that it exists from experiences to which I have been privy. Of course, I'd imagine that demonic possession is a rather low proportion of things that could be considered mental illnesses, and they are even less likely to happen in a secularized world. My belief in agency requires that people accept the demon's at-least-partial control, and in a world where fewer and fewer believe in spirits, diabolical overtures are less likely to be effective. Silver linings I suppose.
Kenngo1969 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, OGHoosier said: I do believe that it exists from experiences to which I have been privy. Of course, I'd imagine that demonic possession is a rather low proportion of things that could be considered mental illnesses, and they are even less likely to happen in a secularized world. My belief in agency requires that people accept the demon's at-least-partial control, and in a world where fewer and fewer believe in spirits, diabolical overtures are less likely to be effective. [Emphasis added by Kenngo1969.] Silver linings I suppose. Hmmm. I'm not necessarily convinced of that: I think the Adversary will operate wherever he is given the "freest hand," and perhaps not believing in spirits gives him the freest hand of all. I can envision a scenario which is not entirely outlandish in which various medications and other treatments are tried without success (or with only minimal success) in dealing with what those who treat a particular patient (and perhaps even the patient himself) are convinced is some kind of psychiatric diagnosis (though they may be at a loss to arrive at a specific one). Meanwhile, the real culprit continues to operate largely unmolested. Is such a thing relatively rare, perhaps? Yes. But nonexistent? Color me skeptical.
Kenngo1969 Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 14 hours ago, 2BizE said: I don't believe in this demonic possession hocus pocus. I do believe in mental illness including schizophrenia that can cause people to act very strangly. I believe people still do not fully understand the human mind, and ancient peoples certainly did not, thus the demonic possession became a way to describe mental illness. You're entitled to your opinion, but those who have had firsthand experience with demonic possession would beg to differ. Do I think such a prospect is worth getting all worked up over? No. But the dramatic, before-and-after effects of cases of demonic possession followed by casting out (as rare as those instances, hopefully, are) would seem to militate against an "It's-all-in-your-head" explanation.
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