ksfisher Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 24 minutes ago, Scott Lloyd said: So if we are curious or of a mind to be early birds, we can get started with it right away instead of waiting for Jan. 1. Strictly forbidden!
blueglass Posted October 8, 2018 Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, Scott Lloyd said: I just did a search in my Gospel Library app. Relief Society is mentioned in Gospel Principles in chapters 14 and 26. thanks for pointing this out. Not all topics can be discussed extensively in such a lesson format. Maybe that's ok. Edited October 9, 2018 by blueglass
Royce Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 On 10/7/2018 at 9:49 AM, Duncan said: I have mixed feelings about this. I think they want to integrate investigators in GD on sunday, which is dumb IMO. You could be talking about baptisms for the dead to people who have been around for years all the while the new people have no idea what you are talking about and quite possibly have never seen a Temple. They would be a step 1 or 2 while others are on step 64. So it's much better to keep new converts in a cloistered back room of stupidity where they don't have to contact normal members.
Duncan Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 11 minutes ago, Royce said: So it's much better to keep new converts in a cloistered back room of stupidity where they don't have to contact normal members. which isn't what I was saying at all. I'm saying line upon line, precept upon precept
MiserereNobis Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 42 minutes ago, Duncan said: which isn't what I was saying at all. I'm saying line upon line, precept upon precept Which is fine, except when the deeper (and perhaps more controversial) doctrines are intentionally kept away from the investigators and new members. The controversial doctrines in Catholicism were taught early and directly to me when I was studying with a priest prior to baptism, such as the dogmas around the Blessed Virgin Mary and transubstantiation. It's one thing to talk about line upon line, it's another to use that to not talk about controversial ideas to new members.
halconero Posted October 10, 2018 Posted October 10, 2018 14 minutes ago, MiserereNobis said: Which is fine, except when the deeper (and perhaps more controversial) doctrines are intentionally kept away from the investigators and new members. The controversial doctrines in Catholicism were taught early and directly to me when I was studying with a priest prior to baptism, such as the dogmas around the Blessed Virgin Mary and transubstantiation. It's one thing to talk about line upon line, it's another to use that to not talk about controversial ideas to new members. It’s a fine balance between guarding sacred mysteries (to use an antiquated term) and discolsure for new or perspective converts. I personally try to frame as much of the endowment as possible, while allowing the person to experience as much of the mysteries as possible for themselves. I hope I get it right. It seems as though this fine line was balanced in the early “Cathodox” church. Though whether that was a feature necessitated by persecution, or a feature necessary to the faith, is debatable. I’m not sure what the right answer is tbh. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Disciplina_arcani 2
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