Freedom Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, Alan said: I'd rather explore alternatives. There often are alternatives available in cases where blood is routinely used. The JW's have demonstrated this quite successfully. And to be honest, I'm not all that concerned about being kept alive. Why? What do you have against blood transfusions? What about organ donations? Is it just because it sounds icky, or is there moral opposition?
amo Posted March 1, 2017 Author Posted March 1, 2017 Here's what the New Testament Student Manual, 2014 says about the blood issue in NT times : "In short, converts were to avoid becoming entangled with the sexual sin and idolatry that were rampant in the ancient Greco-Roman world. Because the law of Moses prohibited the eating of blood (see Leviticus 3:17; 17:10–14; 19:26), James’s counsel to abstain from “things strangled, and from blood” may have been meant to avoid giving offense to Jews and thus hindering missionary work among them. "
Alan Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, Freedom said: Why? What do you have against blood transfusions? What about organ donations? Is it just because it sounds icky, or is there moral opposition? I think it's the icky-ness. I just don't want someone else's blood or heart, liver etc in my body. It would seriously give me the creeps.
thesometimesaint Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 1 hour ago, Alan said: I'd rather explore alternatives. There often are alternatives available in cases where blood is routinely used. The JW's have demonstrated this quite successfully. And to be honest, I'm not all that concerned about being kept alive. We're still looking for that holy grail of artificial blood. That is what is truly sad about your argument.
thesometimesaint Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 34 minutes ago, Alan said: I think it's the icky-ness. I just don't want someone else's blood or heart, liver etc in my body. It would seriously give me the creeps. Once they give it to you it no longer theirs, it is yours. They loved you enough to want you to live, even if they couldn't.
Alan Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 2 hours ago, thesometimesaint said: Once they give it to you it no longer theirs, it is yours. They loved you enough to want you to live, even if they couldn't. Well, I don't want it so it can go to someone else. There, everyone's happy.
strappinglad Posted March 1, 2017 Posted March 1, 2017 The problem with being literal in scripture interpretation, is one will frequently find oneself in an illogical box of one's own construction. Is it possible to remove all the water from a garden hose? Just tipping it up over its length will remove 95% + but not all. Using compressed air will remove another 4.5 % + , but even the compressed air has moisture in it. removing ALL the blood from an animal is even more difficult. There comes a point where we have to accept " good enough " as a solution. As Alan says, there is often an alternate solution which can keep everyone happy if we allow it. We LDS take it as a point of pride to avoid alcohol , and yet we will use medicines prepared with alcohol, and eat food so prepared telling ourselves that the alcohol has all been burned off, and drink homemade Root beer that's a week old and quite...hmm.. good. As a side note, I recently spent 4 days in a hospital ward with all its accompanying sights , sounds, and SMELLS. Death increasing looked like a viable solution. There was a definite vortex of air turbulence as I left after discharge . 1
Rain Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 11 hours ago, Alan said: I think it's the icky-ness. I just don't want someone else's blood or heart, liver etc in my body. It would seriously give me the creeps. I get it. I may one day need a kidney transplant and it isn't exactly exciting to me, even though I would accept it.
Calm Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 14 hours ago, amo said: I tend to disagree with your opinion. I believe our deepest gratitude and appreciation should be directed to science and the hundreds of doctors, researchers, etc., who, facing a life threatening problem like this blood ban, were able to find a solution–still in process-, guided/inspired by God’s love to his children. I don't see gratitude as a limited resource of which there is so much to go around so if we give it to one group, we can't give as much as we might want to another.
thesometimesaint Posted March 2, 2017 Posted March 2, 2017 23 hours ago, Alan said: Well, I don't want it so it can go to someone else. There, everyone's happy. Absolutely.
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