Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 The unintended consequence of excommunicating Dehlin: He reported today that Mormon Stories podcast is currently averaging 9,241 downloads per DAY.Hooray. Lets all celebrate. A known apostate whose preaching is now more "popular" is something to celebrate for sure. Congrats for bringing it to our attention. And just what is your point in bringing this up rockpond? I swear you bring more into question with your own credibility and you wonder why some of us view you the way we do. We know you love Dehlin. What next? 3
Gray Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Hooray. Lets all celebrate. A known apostate whose preaching is now more "popular" is something to celebrate for sure. Congrats for bringing it to our attention. And just what is your point in bringing this up rockpond? I swear you bring more into question with your own credibility and you wonder why some of us view you the way we do. We know you love Dehlin. What next? Should he not love Dehlin? 2
ERayR Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Should he not love Dehlin? Oh the nuances of interpretation. 1
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Well every once in a while I read, in the comments, comments from someone who sounds like an active member type, so I don't think we're the only ones. But there probably aren't a lot. I wonder how many never-mos find themselves listening. It would seem uninteresting to never-mos... but those who enjoy religious studies in general could likely find some interest in it. I'll add that my brother is an active, faithful member and love the MS podcasts. He found them independent of me.
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Hooray. Lets all celebrate. A known apostate whose preaching is now more "popular" is something to celebrate for sure. Congrats for bringing it to our attention. And just what is your point in bringing this up rockpond? My purpose was not to celebrate. I thought it was an interesting development in the saga.
ERayR Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 My purpose was not to celebrate. I thought it was an interesting development in the saga. But, at least for me, not unexpected. He used the Church court as effective advertizement for his wares. 3
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 My purpose was not to celebrate. I thought it was an interesting development in the saga.I am sure you did. As you are some one that listens to him frequently and praises him, I am sure it was just for the heck of it, yeah? You even said "unintended consequence". You are trying to bolster his position and trying to cast a light on to the church that it did something wrong in ex-ing him. 1
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Should he not love Dehlin? Huh? I have no clue what you are talking about. Let me give you a rep point for that. You made a non point. I don't really care what you are rockpond or anyone else does in terms of loving or not loving some one or something. The point is that RP is an acolyte of JD. Edited May 5, 2015 by Mola Ram Suda Ram
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 The point is that RP is an acolyte of JD. This is false.
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I am sure you did. As you are some one that listens to him frequently and praises him, I am sure it was just for the heck of it, yeah? You even said "unintended consequence". You are trying to bolster his position and trying to cast a light on to the church that it did something wrong in ex-ing him. I have stated multiple times on these boards that he gave the Church no choice but to excommunicate him. I assume that an increase in listeners was not the Church's intent in excommunicating him. That makes it an unintended consequence.
ERayR Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I assume that an increase in listeners was not the Church's intent in excommunicating him. I assume it was not even a consideration. 2
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I assume it was not even a consideration. Since promoting his ideas is purportedly one of the reasons for his excommunication, it seems like that may have been a consideration. But that's speculative since I have no idea what was going on in the minds of his leaders. 1
ERayR Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Since promoting his ideas is purportedly one of the reasons for his excommunication, it seems like that may have been a consideration. But that's speculative since I have no idea what was going on in the minds of his leaders. Me too that is why I used assume.
Gray Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Huh? I have no clue what you are talking about. Let me give you a rep point for that. You made a non point. I don't really care what you are rockpond or anyone else does in terms of loving or not loving some one or something. The point is that RP is an acolyte of JD. Rockpond can probably more accurately describe himself than you can. 1
Brian 2.0 Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 The intended consequence is that none of those who are downloading his propaganda can be taken in by his artificial sheepskin jacket. His cover as a regular Mormon who just wants to get at the truth has been blown. All his boosters know that he's a proudly unrepentant proselytizing apostate. meh. this tired argument again. I love how people that DIDN'T subscribe and follow MormonStories thinks JD was deceitful and now his fraud is made bare for his listeners to see. And the people that DID subscribe and follow MormonStories say "what are you talking about"? 3
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Rockpond can probably more accurately describe himself than you can. Yes but what fun would that be for Mola. Or Russell/Pahoran.
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 meh. this tired argument again. I love how people that DIDN'T subscribe and follow MormonStories thinks JD was deceitful and now his fraud is made bare for his listeners to see. And the people that DID subscribe and follow MormonStories say "what are you talking about"? Exactly.
Gray Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 meh. this tired argument again. I love how people that DIDN'T subscribe and follow MormonStories thinks JD was deceitful and now his fraud is made bare for his listeners to see. And the people that DID subscribe and follow MormonStories say "what are you talking about"? I haven't listened to many recent MS podcasts over the last couple of years, but John was transparent about his views in the few that I did listen to.
Teancum Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 meh. this tired argument again. I love how people that DIDN'T subscribe and follow MormonStories thinks JD was deceitful and now his fraud is made bare for his listeners to see. And the people that DID subscribe and follow MormonStories say "what are you talking about"?Indeed.
bluebell Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 Since promoting his ideas is purportedly one of the reasons for his excommunication, it seems like that may have been a consideration. But that's speculative since I have no idea what was going on in the minds of his leaders.I think it was more specifically promoting his ideas as a member that his leadership wanted to stop. I'm sure they knew that his excommunication would heighten his appeal in certain circles. An increase in downloads doesn't seem at all surprising to any of us. It's probably not to his leaders either. 4
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I think it was more specifically promoting his ideas as a member that his leadership wanted to stop.I'm sure they knew that his excommunication would heighten his appeal in certain circles.An increase in downloads doesn't seem at all surprising to any of us. It's probably not to his leaders either. I agree... definitely not a surprise given how public his excommunication was.
Mystery Meat Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I agree... definitely not a surprise given how public his excommunication was. I know you aren't disagreeing, but it is interesting to consider who and why it was made public.
rockpond Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 I know you aren't disagreeing, but it is interesting to consider who and why it was made public. ...and why that publicity would lead to more MS podcast listeners rather than less.
cinepro Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 The unintended consequence of excommunicating Dehlin: He reported today that Mormon Stories podcast is currently averaging 9,241 downloads per DAY. This is his post: A crazy stat. Mormon Stories Podcast is currently averaging 9,241 downloads A DAY. That's 277,239 downloads per month, and 3,326,869 downloads per year. Just crazy. Oddly, he only has 5,424 "likes" on the Mormonstories Facebook page. I don't know what the expected number would be, but that seems like a really high ratio...
Brian 2.0 Posted May 5, 2015 Posted May 5, 2015 (edited) Oddly, he only has 5,424 "likes" on the Mormonstories Facebook page. I don't know what the expected number would be, but that seems like a really high ratio... Personally, I never really use the "like" feature. In contrast there's 6,712 member of the "Mormon Stories Podcast Community" group, which a closed group you have to request admission into, a "bigger" action I'd argue than simply liking and yet there are more of them. That number is also higher that JD's "friends" on FB. I'd say there are plenty more closeted listeners that don't care to publicly connect as friends or join a facebook group yet listen "religiously" Edited May 5, 2015 by Brian 2.0
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