New Info On Formation Of Moon

[David T]

This is seriously fascinating stuff. Watch the videos, especially the last one illustrating the impact of Theia and Earth Prime, leading to the formation of a New Earth and it's moon - and it's capacity for life.

http://www.space.com/25331-moon-age-revealed-lunar-mystery.html

Edited April 3, 2014 by David T

[thesometimesaint]

Cool.

[mfbukowski]

And of course it was all random chance, right?

A little nudge here, a DNA tweak there, and here comes Adam.

[thesometimesaint]

And of course it was all random chance, right?

A little nudge here, a DNA tweak there, and here comes Adam.

 

Huh?

[mfbukowski]

Huh?

Scientists think all this happened randomly yet there were an infinite number of ways God could have tweaked natural processes to make a world fit for his children.

Is THAT clear enough?

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

This is seriously fascinating stuff. Watch the videos, especially the last one illustrating the impact of Theia and Earth Prime, leading to the formation of a New Earth and it's moon - and it's capacity for life.http://www.space.com/25331-moon-age-revealed-lunar-mystery.html

Very cool! I hate links about universe, when I see one, then I start following other links for hours at a time. Edited April 4, 2014 by Bill “Papa” Lee

[thesometimesaint]

Scientists think all this happened randomly yet there were an infinite number of ways God could have tweaked natural processes to make a world fit for his children.

Is THAT clear enough?

 

Actually there are a very limited number of ways that God could have tweaked natural processes and made a world fit for his children. IE; A little less gravity and the air we breathe doesn't weigh enough to stay on the earth. A little more gravity and breathing becomes difficult. A little closer to our sun and we become Venus, and a little further away and we become Mars. Neither one very good for us. You know the chemical difference between hemoglobin and chlorophyll? Hemoglobin uses one atom of Iron while chlorophyll uses one atom of magnesium. Neither is made by our star, but from long ago exploded stars. We are star stuff.

[David T]

I found this illustration of exactly how Theia came to impact Earth(Prime). I swear it's legit.

 

[Rob Osborn]

I like how they said that it is because of the the moon that life arose from the waters. More atheist science.

[cdowis]

Actually there are a very limited number of ways that God could have tweaked natural processes and made a world fit for his children.

 

 

This is the point that Hawkin was making in his dialogue with Dawkins.  He indicated that the only alternative to this unlikely "coincidence" of exactly the perfect conditions was multiple UNIVERSES.

[thesometimesaint]

I like how they said that it is because of the the moon that life arose from the waters. More atheist science.

 

Genesis 1

New International Version (NIV)

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ² Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

³ And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. ⁴ God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. ⁵ God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

⁶ And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” ⁷ So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. ⁸ God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

⁹ And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. ¹⁰ God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

[Rob Osborn]

Its actually surprising that it isn't overly obvious that everything needed for life to exist here isnt probable without God designing and carrying the Creation out.

[Rob Osborn]

 

Genesis 1

New International Version (NIV)

The Beginning

1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ² Now the earth was formless and empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters.

³ And God said, “Let there be light,” and there was light. ⁴ God saw that the light was good, and he separated the light from the darkness. ⁵ God called the light “day,” and the darkness he called “night.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the first day.

⁶ And God said, “Let there be a vault between the waters to separate water from water.” ⁷ So God made the vault and separated the water under the vault from the water above it. And it was so. ⁸ God called the vault “sky.” And there was evening, and there was morning—the second day.

⁹ And God said, “Let the water under the sky be gathered to one place, and let dry ground appear.” And it was so. ¹⁰ God called the dry ground “land,” and the gathered waters he called “seas.” And God saw that it was good.

So, doies this mean that you don't actually believe all that crap inside that link you posted saying how the creation myth was an invention of the Hebrews?

[thesometimesaint]

This is the point that Hawkin was making in his dialogue with Dawkins.  He indicated that the only alternative to this unlikely "coincidence" of exactly the perfect conditions was multiple UNIVERSES.

 

I agree, but that is big jump to a God. Hawking is an Atheist.

[Senator]

I like how they said that it is because of the the moon that life arose from the waters. More atheist science.

Totally! It really annoys me when humans start thinking.

Why can't people just leave well enough alone:

...and then there was earth

...and then there was light

...and then there was plants

...and then there was animals

...and then there was humans

...and then there was Google

PERIOD!!

[thesometimesaint]

Its actually surprising that it isn't overly obvious that everything needed for life to exist here isnt probable without God designing and carrying the Creation out.

 

All that is needed is energy, gravity, and time. It is entirely possible that God did use those three things. I believe he did.

[changed]

This is the point that Hawkin was making in his dialogue with Dawkins.  He indicated that the only alternative to this unlikely "coincidence" of exactly the perfect conditions was multiple UNIVERSES.

Either

a) no multiverse, and fine tuning by God

or

b) multiple universes - enough universes that everything imaginable exists, including God.

 

[Rob Osborn]

 

All that is needed is energy, gravity, and time. It is entirely possible that God did use those three things. I believe he did.

So, do you think that without God or any other intelligent agent designing this that one could just take those three things, throw them together and "poof" life pops into existence?

[cdowis]

I agree, but that is big jump to a God. Hawking is an Atheist.

 

You are mistaken.

 

He is not just an atheist.  He is on an anti-Christ crusade using science as a sword in his campaign.  He has taken the burden to answer this basic argument, presented by one of the greatest scientists of all ages.  And all he can give us is explosions and sparkles.

Edited April 3, 2014 by cdowis

[cinepro]

Its actually surprising that it isn't overly obvious that everything needed for life to exist here isnt probable without God designing and carrying the Creation out.

 

It doesn't have to be "probable".  Improbable things happen all the time.

[MiserereNobis]

I think there has been some confusion here between Stephen Hawking and Richard Dawkins.  Similar names and all

[David T]

I like how they said that it is because of the the moon that life arose from the waters. More atheist science.

 

What I'm going to teach my children is that Nature is what we call the rules of the universe - how things just happen to work.

 

One of God's tools allowed for in planning, choosing, and establishing this wonderful world as our School is Nature.

 

Science is what we call our tools and methods of trying to understand how Nature works.

 

I don't know how or in what manner Heavenly Fathered used the tool of nature in preparing a world for us, but I strongly believe that He did. I do know that He understands nature better than we do, but that shouldn't stop us from using Science to try to understand it too. The more we learn from Science, the more we can know a small portion of what God knows. Our Science today is better than is was in the past, and we understand Nature a lot more clearly than we did then. We still have a long way to go, but it's exciting!

 

What' s important is that Heavenly Father had a plan for our Spirits to live in a world that would be exactly what we needed, and whatever tools or methods or processes that may have been utilized for it to get to where it needed to,  it's not an accident that we are here and a part of it.

 

Just as revelation by the Spirit, and also through the Prophets is a means by which we can learn what Heavenly Father knows in regards to what we need to do to be happy, Science is a tool by which we can learn a little bit more of what heavenly father knows about how the Universe works. Both are wonderful and useful methods God loves for us to use to become more like Him. I am grateful for them both.

Edited April 3, 2014 by David T

[thesometimesaint]

 

So, do you think that without God or any other intelligent agent designing this that one could just take those three things, throw them together and "poof" life pops into existence?

 

You are not a simpleton don't act like one.

 

E=MC2

M is a function of gravity(a form of E)

Time is function of interval of distance between two points of M.

Abiogenesis is selective. Randomness has nothing to do with Abiogenesis.

[thesometimesaint]

You are mistaken.

 

He is not just an atheist.  He is on an anti-Christ crusade using science as a sword in his campaign.  He has taken the burden to answer this basic argument, presented by one of the greatest scientists of all ages.  And all he can give us is explosions and sparkles.

 

I'm not mistaken. Whatever his hobby horse is he is an Atheist.

 

Actually Hawking was the first to unify Einsteins Theory of Relativity, and the probabilistic's of Quantum Mechanics.

 

Ps. Unlike religious fundamentalists  Hawking admits when he is wrong. He lost a standing bet that the Higgs Boson didn't exist. Therefore would never be found.

Edited April 3, 2014 by thesometimesaint

[Mystery Meat]

I find it strange why so many God fearing and believing folk believe science is the enemy. There seems to be some kind of repulsion to any scientific conclusion that doesn't explicitly name God as the means for creation, or at least the architect. I don't get it. To me science and God seem to go hand in hand. Just because I strongly believe Hawking is way off on is belief in God, doesn't mean he isn't right about a lot of things. In fact he may know more about the nature of God then most of us even if he doesn't realize it. 

 

Science is not the enemy. I believe in evolution, the big bang, etc. and they have only strengthened my faith in God. None of the science in the article or videos linked to above is atheist science. In fact, as far as I am concerned there is not such thing as atheist science. People who make statements like that are no less ignorant about the nature of God than Richard Dawkins.