Integrity.

[EllenMaksoud]

An old man, is more like it, getting more gray with each day.

They say I am old, but my mind is not accepting it. These days, I just live for the fun of it, and any day that I do not have to look into a live 480 panel is good.  I was too stubborn all my life. These days, what ever the Holy Spirit says I do.

Edited August 27, 2013 by EllenMaksoud

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

They say I am old, but my mind is not accepting it. These days, I just live for the fun of it, and any day that I do not have to look into a live 480 panel is good. 

Unions here are not allowed to work things hot like this anymore, but inspectors have to open gear and panels to look inside. Last job I worked on primary voltage was 4160v.

[EllenMaksoud]

Unions here are not allowed to work things hot like this anymore, but inspectors have to open gear and panels to look inside. Last job I worked on primary voltage was 4160v.

Are we going to get in trouble talking about work? 

 

I was slow and careful, most of my time was in a factory, some of it in a foundary. I actually cried the first time I had to change an element on a 1800 degree tempering furnace. The operator was amazed to see me there in the middle of the night and actually helped me with it. 

 

Gosh, I don't remember the three phase voltages. We had a water pump motor of 1000 Hp that I think was 4160? 

 

I think they are going to tell us we can not talk shop, so you can PM me if you like. I doubt that you want to talk cooking though.

 

No, I do not miss being Miss Electrician.

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

Are we going to get in trouble talking about work? 

 

I was slow and careful, most of my time was in a factory, some of it in a foundary. I actually cried the first time I had to change an element on a 1800 degree tempering furnace. The operator was amazed to see me there in the middle of the night and actually helped me with it. 

 

Gosh, I don't remember the three phase voltages. We had a water pump motor of 1000 Hp that I think was 4160? 

 

I think they are going to tell us we can not talk shop, so you can PM me if you like. I doubt that you want to talk cooking though.

 

No, I do not miss being Miss Electrician.

No, it is social hall and we are just being social. My dept hired the first woman inspectors ever, we had two at one time.

[Tacenda]

I've never met a female Electrician, but I don't get out much.  I'm enthralled with the convo with Pa Pa.  Keep it going.  And oh, how scary your work truly was.  My husband is a retired Union Ironworker, and I do remember him saying they had females doing work around them in different fields similar to that.  But wow, is all I've got to say.    

[EllenMaksoud]

No, it is social hall and we are just being social. My dept hired the first woman inspectors ever, we had two at one time.

I actually think that the three phase at the Drinking Water Plant where I worked was 12.5 kv coming in, and then we transformed it to either 7150 or 4160. Gosh, I can't remember, so correct me if you know. It was 2002 when I was last there. We had some big GE breakers to test and send out for cleaning and all that.  They were about a 3' cube, and really, really were scary to work with for me. I think we pushed them in by hand and the idea that these breakers were engaging live 3 phase 12.5 KV ...

 

I think just about every Electrician has been thrown out of the back of a home dryer for being stupid. The only other time I got shocked was when we were Megging one of those 1000 hp, SCR start Motors. I got shocked off the residuall charge in the motor lines when we were finished.  My boss was right there and acted strange for a while.

 

My dexterity is not good and one time when the OccHealth folk were testing me, they were sure that I could not have been an Electrician until I told him that there were slow electricians and dead ones. You would think that these testers would have realised that.

[EllenMaksoud]

I've never met a female Electrician, but I don't get out much.  I'm enthralled with the convo with Pa Pa.  Keep it going.  And oh, how scary your work truly was.  My husband is a retired Union Ironworker, and I do remember him saying they had females doing work around them in different fields similar to that.  But wow, is all I've got to say.    

Well, if I had grown up in the Mormon church, maybe I would not have been one.  There is no glamor in the work. It is a lot of bending, stooping, crawling, climbing on ladders, and in very confined spaces. I was fortunate to fall and injure my back enough so that I had to stop, and learn something else.

[Calm]

I told him that there were slow electricians and dead ones

 

Love it...

[Calm]

There is no glamor in the work.

When I was 17 and just starting college, and my grandma found out I would rewire plugs and stuff for fun, my grandma suggested that I become a TV repairman, having in her memory a large bill for what she saw as no work....

 

I wanted a more academically oriented future though.

[EllenMaksoud]

When I was 17 and just starting college, and my grandma found out I would rewire plugs and stuff for fun, my grandma suggested that I become a TV repairman, having in her memory a large bill for what she saw as no work....

 

I wanted a more academically oriented future though.

I tried college, even got 2+ years in but I was so fragmented and unable to concentrate ... I don;t know why. I suppose I could have been ADD or someting.  Now days, perhaps if I was a child they would have treated it better ...

[Stargazer]

...I told him that there were slow electricians and dead ones...

 

An mostly-abandoned ambition of mine is to become a licensed pilot (just private planes, thanks).  This reminds me of the old saying:

 

There are old pilots

And there are bold pilots

But there are no old AND bold pilots.

[EllenMaksoud]

An mostly-abandoned ambition of mine is to become a licensed pilot (just private planes, thanks).  This reminds me of the old saying:

 

There are old pilots

And there are bold pilots

But there are no old AND bold pilots.

I wanted to fly, but life did not allow the opportunity, and I am afraid of heights. There were a few lessons. One day, landing at Troutdale, Oregon, he let me fly on the trip, the downwind leg took us over the edge of the Columbia Gorge and when we did the cross wind leg, it took us of that cliff . The change in apparent elevation from almost tree top level to several hundred feet off the ground as we passed the cliff really unnerved me, a lot ! There just was not the money to continue..

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

An mostly-abandoned ambition of mine is to become a licensed pilot (just private planes, thanks).  This reminds me of the old saying:

 

There are old pilots

And there are bold pilots

But there are no old AND bold pilots.

What about Chuck Yager?

[Stargazer]

What about Chuck Yager?

 

OK, I see what you're trying to do -- come up with an outlier to try to prove that the general case is wrong.  Bzzzzt! Wrong!  :-)

 

Yeager was obviously especially created by God to push envelopes.  Here's a man who became the first person to exceed the sound barrier -- and survive! -- and he did so with a couple of broken ribs!  Let me show you a video of a bold pilot who became not old -- and took several others with him.

 

[Stargazer]

I wanted to fly, but life did not allow the opportunity, and I am afraid of heights. There were a few lessons. One day, landing at Troutdale, Oregon, he let me fly on the trip, the downwind leg took us over the edge of the Columbia Gorge and when we did the cross wind leg, it took us of that cliff . The change in apparent elevation from almost tree top level to several hundred feet off the ground as we passed the cliff really unnerved me, a lot ! There just was not the money to continue..

 

Nice!

 

I had two lessons and it was wonderful.  And the money existed to continue -- you don't need to spend it all at once, of course -- but the consensus between the wife and I was that as nice as it would be, it was just not practical.  And what would it get us if I had a pilot's certificate?  Nothing.  I will learn to fly later, after I am resurrected.  Although by then I am sure it won't be quite so thrilling.

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

OK, I see what you're trying to do -- come up with an outlier to try to prove that the general case is wrong.  Bzzzzt! Wrong!  :-)

 

Yeager was obviously especially created by God to push envelopes.  Here's a man who became the first person to exceed the sound barrier -- and survive! -- and he did so with a couple of broken ribs!  Let me show you a video of a bold pilot who became not old -- and took several others with him.

 

I believe you Chuck was called of God to advance the work of The Lord. There was a time when missionaries would spend half their mission going to and from the mission field.