Student Opposition To Romney Commencement At Liberty University

[selek1]

Folks really shouldn't refer to me as RS. Surely I'm not the only one who reads a remark and inserts Relief Society into the paragraph?

You are undoubtedly correct in that regard. Is there a nickname for "Ryan" that begins with a "B"?

[cdowis]

There's another ongoing thread that discusses how the Word of Wisdom was at first essentially a "suggestion" but under Grant (if I recall correctly!?) it became doctrine. If that development proves accurate, it would seemingly prove an example of "doctrine" found not in the standard works.

This is a common mistake.

There was no change in doctrine, but a change in the practice of a doctrine. Keeping our bodies pure and as temple of God is the doctrine as it was taught in the scriptures (found in both the OT and the NT), and the Word of Wisdom is one application (practice) of that doctrine. Thus, Christ and the apostles drank wine, but that practice has changed in our modern age.

The church makes changes to the practices of doctrines according to the needs of the members.

[Storm Rider]

This is a common mistake.

There was no change in doctrine, but a change in the practice of a doctrine. Keeping our bodies pure and as temple of God is the doctrine as it was taught in the scriptures (found in both the OT and the NT), and the Word of Wisdom is one application (practice) of that doctrine. Thus, Christ and the apostles drank wine, but that practice has changed in our modern age.

Ryan, this is an important point being made here. Terminology is vital to gaining and reflecting proper understanding. CD's explanation is important to understand.

[Scott Lloyd]

That's all I was getting at.

That's the problem, isn't it? Which sources can one trust and which can be ignored?

Yes, of course I haven't ever read any of these things before. Clearly I just Google all this and then come on to message boards so I can get you all riled up. Obviously I'm not asking these questions for the purpose of exploration. If you're only logging in to insult me, I suspect your time is better spent elsewhere. I am amazed that you invite non-Mormons to explore your faith and then we do, with earnestness, we're anti-Mormon. Fabulous. Perhaps your time is best spent ignoring any and all of my future posts.

Why the unseemly sarcasm?

Of all the pro-Mormon posters on this board, calmoriah is arguably the most civil and congenial. And yet, she is capable of delivering a direct and effective rebuttal when occasion calls for it.

Is that the problem? Do you not like having your assertions rebutted?

[Vance]

Is there a nickname for "Ryan" that begins with a "B"?

Bovine?

[Vance]

This is a common mistake.

There was no change in doctrine, but a change in the practice of a doctrine. Keeping our bodies pure and as temple of God is the doctrine as it was taught in the scriptures (found in both the OT and the NT), and the Word of Wisdom is one application (practice) of that doctrine. Thus, Christ and the apostles drank wine, but that practice has changed in our modern age.

The church makes changes to the practices of doctrines according to the needs of the members.

[CQUIRK]

Well he spoke, and was well-received by the audience and the EV critics by his speech.

So much for controversy.

[Garden Girl]

Well he spoke, and was well-received by the audience and the EV critics by his speech.

So much for controversy.

Yes, and I was so pleased that it was an uplifting and encouraging Commencement speech, not a political speech. The one overtly political statement he made was that he believed in marriage being between one man and one woman, to which he received a standing ovation. I think his speech was great.

GG

[cdowis]

As a stake president, etc, he has experience in giving uplifting, positive speeches. Regarding SS marriage, not political at all. Just another day at the office, so to speak.

[CASteinman]

Folks really shouldn't refer to me as RS. Surely I'm not the only one who reads a remark and inserts Relief Society into the paragraph?

Actually, until you mentioned it, it never occurred to me. I might be unusual.

[KevinG]

As a stake president, etc, he has experience in giving uplifting, positive speeches. Regarding SS marriage, not political at all. Just another day at the office, so to speak.

Actually, until you mentioned it, it never occurred to me. I might be unusual.

The juxtaposition of these threads makes me wonder if cdowis is referring to marriage among Nazi secret police.

[Avatar4321]

I hope their protest went well. The More mormons get attention the better.

[BCSpace]

I hope their protest went well. The More mormons get attention the better.

I get the impression many people are getting more and more comfortable with Mormons the more exposure Romney gets.