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The Nehor

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  1. Okay, now I’ve watched the whole video of this preacher for context and it is worse than I originally thought. Hooray. So he hears there are more women wearing shorts than there are wearing pants and dresses combined so he goes out to the park and starts counting. So he is going out and evaluating women’s clothing choices and counting/perving on all the women going about their day. Then he announces that if a woman wearing shorts is raped and he is on the jury he is going to exonerate the rapist. The shorts qualify as incitement to rape. When explaining this he says that “a man is a man”. In other words expecting self-control from men not to rape a woman in shorts is unreasonable. It is also telling on himself. That is how he feels when he sees women in shorts and he is generalizing it to everyone. Now go back to this predator deliberately going out to ‘count’ all the women wearing shorts. Put him on ALL THE WATCHLISTS!
  2. But it is not just a historical text. It is a historical text delivered by angels to guide a people to righteousness. When it espouses racism that is a problem. It would actually make sense if it talked about racism but the prophet writers appear to buy into a lot of it. While there is some nuance in the text the plain meaning is that dark skin is either a curse from God or at least a mark associated with a curse from God. Why? This could have been avoided.
  3. If this were fiction this would make sense but it purports to be history. I would rather go with what is more likely to be accurate than what I like. If the Book of Mormon does not refer to darker skin then I would argue that God REALLY screwed up. That was the default assumption of what the text meant for virtually everyone who believed in it. It was in accordance with the Book of Abraham saying the same thing. God could have avoided a lot of trouble and racism by being more clear with the Book of Mormon (and Book of Abraham) translations. A couple of word tweaks and the Curse of Cain might still have been picked up from the local culture but it wouldn’t have had scriptural backing and the Lamanite curse would be understood differently. The church repudiation of this as “racial folk beliefs” is silly. That implies it was something the unlearned passed around in local Sunday Schools and not that apostles for over a century were declaring it openly from the pulpit. The argument that the Nephites themselves were racist (in a different way of course) would make sense for the time period but the prophets in the Book of Mormon make that racism divinely sanctioned much like the Bible writers did with the ethnicities and nations they didn’t like. We are taught to trust that the Book of Mormon writers are revealing truth. If we are supposed to be critical of what they say that really needs to be taught.
  4. I would argue that we treat animals more poorly now than humans did in the past. Also the sacred acts of sacrifice usually involved humans eating the delicious parts.
  5. And he would have got away with it too if it wasn’t for those meddling wokeists and their dog.
  6. He also admitted to perving on minors while they were changing their clothes. His supporters like to talk about how transgender women in women’s changing areas is one of the great dangers of our time. They do this without a shred of irony.
  7. Hying to Kolob which may or may not happen in the twinkling of an eye, sources are unclear.
  8. You really don’t see the difference between a commonly available object and an extraordinary one? If I said that this morning I wrote my shopping list on a piece of paper and then travelled to the grocery store on a flying fiery chariot would you find both parts of that story equally credible when I fail to produce both the shopping list and the flying fiery chariot?
  9. So Lehi is arguing that if his grandchildren were raised the right way they wouldn’t abandon that way and asks that the punishment be assigned to their parents. So what exactly is keeping the blame from falling back one more generation? Were Laman and Lemuel not brought up the right way? So your argument is that cursing a bunch of people who won’t benefit from it is to the ultimate good because other people will benefit from it. So really the cursed amongst us are the most righteous of all as they follow in the path of the Savior? Should we not all seek to come under the curse of God since God will use that cursing to benefit others? Wouldn’t that be the truest sacrifice? Isn’t it selfish to follow the gospel when you could do a greater service to unborn generations by sinning and being cursed?
  10. Well, if we are on a similar timeline to Christianity in general we should see our version of the Nicene creed in the next 100 years. We can put this on the list of things to consider.
  11. Nah, I found the key is to just spank him until he behaves.
  12. Yep, bad boys are universally loathed. Hey…..WAIT A MINUTE!
  13. Honestly the Lamanites come off better and more sympathetic in the Book of Mormon than the Nephites in many ways. The only writer who really hit hard about the Lamanites being awful was Enos: “And I bear record that the people of Nephi did seek diligently to restore the Lamanites unto the true faith in God. But our labors were vain; their hatred was fixed, and they were led by their evil nature that they became wild, and ferocious, and a blood-thirsty people, full of idolatry and filthiness; feeding upon beasts of prey; dwelling in tents, and wandering about in the wilderness with a short skin girdle about their loins and their heads shaven; and their skill was in the bow, and in the cimeter, and the ax. And many of them did eat nothing save it was raw meat; and they were continually seeking to destroy us.” This reads like a Jacksonian era anti-Indian pamphlet. Gotta love the “evil nature” bit and the carnivore diet which I seriously doubt is accurate. Then again he didn’t think much of his own people either: “And there was nothing save it was exceeding harshness, preaching and prophesying of wars, and contentions, and destructions, and continually reminding them of death, and the duration of eternity, and the judgments and the power of God, and all these things—stirring them up continually to keep them in the fear of the Lord. I say there was nothing short of these things, and exceedingly great plainness of speech, would keep them from going down speedily to destruction. And after this manner do I write concerning them.” I see the “scare them straight” tactics didn’t work that well back then either. Maybe try some other approach? Is there anything worthwhile in this promised land place? “And I soon go to the place of my rest, which is with my Redeemer; for I know that in him I shall rest. And I rejoice in the day when my mortal shall put on immortality, and shall stand before him; then shall I see his face with pleasure, and he will say unto me: Come unto me, ye blessed, there is a place prepared for you in the mansions of my Father. Amen.” Oh my, don’t we think highly of ourselves?
  14. The writer here doesn’t know the difference between “genocide” and “cultural genocide”? Really? And this feigned ignorance is supposed to convince the reader that the Holocaust is being compared to the placement program? Presumably to evoke an emotional reaction that of course it is not as bad as the gas chambers when no one was saying they were the same. Oh what a tangled web we weave.
  15. Yes, but how do you create a whole society of people with that demeanor? The motorcycle club scene attracts a certain type and is probably healthier for that type than being on their own. There are cultures like Sparta where they attempted to literally traumatize their elite into that kind of predator mindset but all of Lamanite society? Unlikely.
  16. Maybe they were the only ones who could pronounce “shibboleth” well enough to fool them.
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