The Nehor

I would be glad to hear a rebuttal on where I am wrong. Also you can follow through on your declarations that you are going to ignore me any time you like. Not sure what is holding you back. Maybe I am just too entertaining? Boredom? The palpable sexual tension between us? A need to seethe in rage at someone? Satan keeps tempting you to? Reading my posts is so boring it helps you sleep? Whatever need it is that I am meeting, you are welcome.

How about instead of being an ‘enlightened centrist’ that intuitively assumes the truth must be smack dab in the middle we find out what is actually correct? The idea that both sides of any debate are psychopathic partisans and can be safely dismissed on that basis is toxic. Instead we should be dismissing people on the basis of them being liars and charlatans and similar things of that nature after we determine they are wrong. Appealing to “both sides equally bad” arguments is often a confession that the person isn’t very secure about where they stand. They have a vague sense that their case is shoddy so it is easiest to make everyone into villains to even the playing field. However, this is just more psychology and figuring out why someone is wrong is best done after you determine that they are actually wrong. Otherwise you slip into Bulverism.

Dan McClellan.

And unsurprisingly those that venerate him are right of center members. Bulverism, the true equalizer of all viewpoints. “You believe that because you are XXXXXXX” It dulls the intellect, places reason below speculative psychology, and C.S. Lewis thought it could doom the world.

Bah, the idea that the Saints of God could be duped by an ignorant, confused, and deluded demagogue that flatters them and their worldview is absolutely ludicrous.

Abuse victims often rationalize away the abuse at first or blame themselves. That is not as vindicating as it sounds.

Pretty much all of them weren’t young earth creationists.

Something about underage parties on an island somewhere? Something about that rings a bell.

False dichotomy. Set the bar so high for the ‘bad’ outcome and your favored ‘good’ outcome becomes probable by default. I don’t see how his countersuits are likely to expose him. Discovery is happening with or without the countersuits. This is just totally wrong. Seriously, read the text exchanges. He wasn’t training anyone to act like a “sexual pervert”. The stuff he was doing was all very vanilla and was ostensibly entirely about him and the woman being able to convince people they were a couple. He was creepily pressing for doing more things to supposedly be better at faking this bond. As a certified sexual pervert I can say the stuff they were doing wouldn’t make her ready even for the ethical side of the kink world. There was nothing about getting her to act like a predator. And, of course, it is nonsensically stupid to use this ruse in the first place. You don’t have to have a romantic partner to set up a child predator party. He only did this so he could do this fake flirting thing. I have no idea how far he planned on taking it. Even if it didn’t go all the way guys like Ballard feed on the attention and being desired. My guess if he could get them to go all the way they would. The only times they were degraded and humiliated were with him. Not in the actual sting. That should show exactly how necessary it was. It may be time for serious self-examination if you are defending predatory sex pest behavior as a necessary evil to achieve a “higher good”. It is stupid and morally reprehensible. “Thou shalt not commit adultery or lust after a woman in your heart unless it is part of unnecessary preparatory method acting for a hamfisted sex trafficking sting that won’t put a dent in actual sex trafficking.” -Jesus (probably)

Oops, responding to old stuff. Probably shouldn’t be posting at 3 in the morning.

Sure you mean a MOTCOJCOLDSINO (member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints in name only)

Yeah, that tends to be what he tends to get stern about on his YouTube channel. He tends to be helpful when answering sincere questions, matter of fact when correcting wrong stuff, and biting when he think the person is misusing the Bible to punch down at the marginalized or to support scumbags.

She defended the “couples ruse” as a legitimate tactic. For this reason she was a defendant in the lawsuit for a while but the judge removed her with prejudice because the evidence against her was not enough to pursue a case. So it seems she was okay with this deception and possibly with her husband taking other women to tantric yoga, getting couple ‘massages’ with sex workers, and these women giving her husband lap dances, and all the rest. Maybe this was an attempt to protect her husband. Maybe she was complicit. Maybe she was happy with anything that would keep her husband away from her. Maybe she was just scared. I don’t know.

From what I have read the bulk of scholars think the 24 hour time period is the more likely. It can mean either but from what I can tell the bulk believe that in this context the more likely meaning is within 24 hours. It is not a certainty though.

That is a theory that is only possibly valid if certain speculative forms of physics are true. It recently got popular because the rotation of galaxies matches to a degree what this theory would require. Of course there are also lots of other possible explanations. It makes for good clickbait though.

If I had unlimited time I would but if I find a source to regularly not be credible I move on to other sources. It is easier and safer to learn from people who are careful about the facts and (despite the bias everyone has) attempt to present it in a way that is not misleading or loaded. People who confidently and enthusiastically spread misinformation are a dime a dozen and I generally don’t spend time on them.

The question is more whether you need a partner to get into the Celestial Kingdom at all so that all those who enter that kingdom are partnered and single people cannot reach that kingdom at all or if the Celestial glory includes subdivisions where single people dwell in the lower ones. Both work. I think the former is more likely to be the intended reading. Why introduce the idea of three subdivisions without clarifying what they are beyond how you get into the highest? If it is talking about the three general degrees of glory then revelation already gives a (limited) description so it makes sense not to expound on them. That is assuming this summary is accurate which is a difficult question to answer. Edit: The difficulty here is that Baptism and Confirmation are often taken as opening the gate to Celestial glory. One theory I have heard about the three subdivisions of the CK idea is that Baptism gets you into the lowest and the other temple ordinances get you into the middle one. I have also heard that the Priesthood gets you into the middle one but that would mean the middle part is (currently) only accessible to men. Another take is that men who qualify but aren’t partnered go to one of the three subdivisions and women in the same condition go to another subdivision. That seems weird to me. It implies a kind of segregation. Plus it suggests that the two subdivisions that aren’t the highest are equally high which sounds off. Or maybe one is higher but that opens a HUGE can of worms.

Yeah, also for a subject like this I want a more rigorous academic analysis of texts. And I have watched a few of their shows about things I know a little about and have rolled my eyes at how badly they twist or misrepresent the premises to reach the conclusion. I am not sure how common this is but I don’t trust them.

Yeah, the fruit of the tree of life is usually believed to give immortality so it might be what was meant. I haven’t gone into a deep dive on that topic though to figure out if that was likely the meaning of the tree of life when it was written. I am convinced though that based on context and the opinions of experts that ‘dying in the 24 hour day you eat the fruit’ is most likely was meant by the writer. A lot of the Book of Genesis is pretty weird. One of the things I have been meaning to look into is why the descendants of Cain and the descendants of Seth use so many of the same names or nearly the same names in their genealogies. I wonder if they took one list and shuffled the names around to make the other.

They are also putting themselves up for large-scale humiliation and degradation from people like teddyaware and people who are much less restrained in their hostility. This damage will be done to them whether they win or lose. And yeah, if everyone you bring on board to this “volunteer’ gig that doesn’t need and shouldn’t have volunteers says you are a sex pest you are a sex pest. Plus the whole concept is designed by and for the sex pest. We have to go undercover and we have to pretend to be in a relationship so we don’t blow our cover. Yeah, I am sure it sounds convincing but if you know anything about stings or underconver work the whole idea is just stupid. This isn’t an episode of NCIS or whatever where you have to do extended time undercover. You literally pretend to be in a relationship for a few minutes until you make your move and bring in the cameras. You don’t even need a spouse for this whole ruse. It is rubbish. He did it because he wants to flirt with women. We have some of his chatlogs. He was flirting and being a sex pest and explaining how important it was to fake this vibe (that he wasn’t faking) to avoid getting caught. I am not blaming the victims who got caught up in it but people defending him after it all comes out don’t have this excuse. Don’t be pro-sex pest shouldn’t be a high standard for people in general. I wish I could say that I find it baffling that so many Church members (most of them men) are willing to defend a sex pest but I just don’t. Patriarchal values at their finest……..yuck.

Pretty big “if” there as the statement is loaded with assumptions. Or their testimony was just considered insufficient to pass muster in court. Your characterization is standard demonization and is not necessarily true. And an unproven assumption that just because it was not enough to move the case forward that it was all based on dishonesty. Or not. This wasn’t an example of things being aired out and exhaustively litigated. Just a determination it is not enough to convict. That is not proof of innocence. That is not what Ballard is doing or what is happening. You are saying he must be innocent because he is willing to fight it out in court. That is not proof of any kind of interest in bringing things to light. He isn’t volunteering information or anything. You are clearly emotionally invested in this guy for some weird reason. You can just ask him out if you are that into him. Fanboys these days……

What are you talking about? Nobody thought that any of their gods were actually the gold or silver or stone statues. That is not what Paul is arguing against. There was a belief that they could be an image of the deity. This is the way that many early Christians understood Jesus, as a living equivalent of an idol carrying the image and/or name of God. A superior version of an idol. This is how he transitions to Jesus and the resurrection. It is a poem. It is poetic. You’re also really hung up on this definition to the point that context seems to not matter at all. Zeus didn’t birth or even create humanity in Greek myth. Prometheus did. This is just acknowledging Zeus as the supreme deity. It is not suggesting a similarity in kind. He did choose it carefully for his argument and it works (to a point). It does not support the LDS theology of gods and humanity being of the same type of being. It clearly does because the philosopher claims to be the offspring of Zeus when, again, Zeus did not create humanity much less birth them. That is not what Paul was teaching nor does it establish in any way that humanity and the gods are the same kind of being.

Yeah, that would be illegal. And if you refuse to give them their legal documents in order to keep them at volunteer labor in the meantime that benefits your institution it could potentially fall under human trafficking, kidnapping, forced labor, and probably a bunch of other crimes.

I think an attempt would have gone very badly for them. There was no Columbian exchange of disease to depopulate Japan and Japan was relatively unified compared to the fractured groups that populated South and Central America. No strategic alliances to aid in conquest. So their usual approach wouldn’t work.