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[saemo]

Duncan, on 18 August 2012 - 11:44 AM, said:

I love Pres. Benson's 1987 statement

“Much of the Christian world today rejects the divinity of the Savior. ”

Say what?

[Pa Pa]

William Schryver, on 18 August 2012 - 06:10 AM, said:

My latest blog offering, based on a post I made yesterday on this message board: The Meaning and Purpose of the Book of Mormon

If I may be as so bold to say...it has brought a great number under it's banner of a single Church and belief than has the Bible. Once the BoM has been around as long as the Bible??? But in all truth, the D&C will help hold that it (or on) track.

[thesometimesaint]

saemo, on 15 February 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

Say what?

I don't know about "Much" but there certainly some Christians that deny his divinity. That always seemed oxymoronic to me.

[Okrahomer]

thesometimesaint, on 17 February 2013 - 12:38 PM, said:

I don't know about "Much" but there certainly some Christians that deny his divinity. That always seemed oxymoronic to me.

Some pretty big "jow-dropping" examples are discussed here:  http://newsweek.washingtonpost.com/onfaith/Non-Believing-Clergy.pdf

[brightpath]

How do you know there were Gentiles present in America prior to 421 AD with the tribe if Joseph? Are we to believe what non member Gentile scientists tell us? They try to explain away how people'arrived in The Americas by their bogus theory of a land bridge, and you buy this crap. The BofM notes when people were discovered in America it was big news. Mulek's people discovering the last Jaradite recorded, The Nephites discovery the people of Mulek recorded, and the Nephites knew who the Lamanites were and they were not Asians. Now if there were Asians running around in The Americas it would have been recorded by the people of Nephi.

[brightpath]

Now getting back to the purpose of the BofM which is the purpose of this thread is that the BofM was written to the Lamanites who are a remnant of the House of Israel by their forefathers. The promise in Moroni was written specifically to them.  The Lamanites are to use the BofM to remember who they really are and prepare for when  the times of the Gentiles comes to a close.

[Maidservant]

theplains, on 13 October 2012 - 09:27 AM, said:

Maybe the term "nominal" to describe those inferred by Benson's statement ("much of the Christian world today rejects the divinity
of the Savior") is too strong an adjective to be placed next to the word "Christian". I would probably have suggested Benson use
the phrase "Former Christians, who once believed in the divinity of the Saviour, apostatized and rejected his divinity".

Ascribing the identity "nominal Christian" to someone who denies a core doctrine goes a little too far in my opinion but it appears
to fall in line with how it is defined by the Merriam-Webster Dictionary

Thanks,
Jim

I'm thinking that is pretty  much President Benson's point (agreeing with you more or less), although he stated it a little differently.

brightpath, on 15 February 2013 - 04:57 AM, said:

there weren't any people's in America Prior to Lehi, because the BofM says so.

This is not the case.  It is the opposite.  The Book of Mormon discusses many people who were not Lehites.  I point you to Sherem.  His heritage is not explained, but he is not indicated as a relative or a fellow traveller with the Lehites.  An appeal to "gentile science" does not confirm the existence of other people in the 'new word'--the Book of Mormon itself indicates that.

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The Jaredites were Hebrews

No.  Hebrews came much later.

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and from the chosen seed

of?

[theplains]

Maidservant, on 21 February 2013 - 11:32 AM, said:

of?

I looked through the thread but don't see it referring to something I mentioned so not
sure what to add.

Jim

[brightpath]

Maidservant, Sherem was a Nephite. Many people cave in to science and admit that there were Asians in America when Lehi landed. This is not the case. If you believe this then you do not understand the BofM. America was reserved for the chosen seed(Israel). After Israel rejected the gospel then God allowed the Gentiles to invade America and scatter Israel. Do you really think Sherem was an Asian? They didn't even permit Lamanites among them. Sherem had a perfect knowledge of the language and understanding of the scriptures so he was no Asian. Please do not pull any random name out of the BofM and claim they are Asian. As far as the chosen seed goes. Trace the lineage of the priesthood and then you will see the pattern of the chosen seed aka Hebrews, Israel. After the flood the priesthood was preserved through Shem(Melchizedek). Ham was cursed to the priesthood and Japeth was the father of the Gentiles. The Jaredites were from the chosen seed because they had the priesthood and came from Shem's lineage. The Gentiles never received the priesthood or the gospel until after the death of Christ.

[brightpath]

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