JeremyOrbe-Smith Posted March 30, 2012 Posted March 30, 2012 Strong Panspermia/Cosmic Ancestry + historical accounts of anthropomorphic visitors from the Heavens above us + = Pearl of Great Price. Dig it.
thesometimesaint Posted March 30, 2012 Posted March 30, 2012 Or just doing what has been on other earths.
Stargazer Posted March 30, 2012 Posted March 30, 2012 Or just doing what has been on other earths.Yes.With respect to how it might be done on other earths, there would of course be a Creation and a Fall, and the Atonement would be presented as something that had been done for them in another place. It might be described in allegorical language, or even in plain language, and the requirements for taking advantage of it would be simply and easily given: Repentance and Baptism. I don't see any problem with it at all. Father needn't get into detail about it beyond what was necessary to sufficiently educate.It was an infinite atonement. Only necessary to be done once for all.
Sethbag Posted March 30, 2012 Posted March 30, 2012 Your selective use of christian position is interesting, but unfortunately overlooks the rather obvious "Man in his own image" which surmises similar imagery.Your argument here isn't really with me, it's with all the Christians who believe in a formless God. It does no good to explain why they should believe in a God that takes into account the "Man in his own image" verbiage. The fact remains, those who believe in a formless God could more easily fit non-humanoid creatures as "children of God" than people who believe that God's children are required to be humanoid, like they believe God to be. Not to mention the unique earth centrism of most christian religious sects, versus a less centrist LDS point of view. I realize your dislike for the church colors your response but you should look at the entire context rather than merely kicking in a limited selective point.Your argument by assumed anti-Mormon bias is a fail. This argument really hasn't got much to do with my life or dislike for the church, someone in an earlier post was stating the LDS were uniquely well-positioned to deal theologically with non-humanoid intelligent beings, and I was disagreeing with it and offering a reason why. My point isn't even inherenly anti-Mormon - any TBM could have said the same thing.
Sethbag Posted March 30, 2012 Posted March 30, 2012 I doubt Brigham was thinking like that, actually. He might have been speaking off the top of his head, rather than using his prophetic organ.I'm pretty sure you're right. :-)WISE 1828+2650 is the archetype of its particular class of brown dwarf, which is, the Y sprectral type, it being of the Y0 subtype. And the term "brown dwarf" always meant a protostar that failed to ignite because of insufficient mass. Stars that were previously burning and have gone through their death throes are of numerous different types, including red dwarfs, white dwarfs, and neutron stars, There may be a few others, including some that have been theorized but not yet found.Thanks for the explanation!
LDSToronto Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 While you can think of ways He might do so, it is His pattern is to use prophets and scripture (that the prophets write) to communicate officially with His people.The intergalactic gospel, as described in this thread, states that the planet Earth is one planet amongst (infinitely) many that is ruled by God. I think that anyone familiar with statistics would agree that a sample size of one does not adequately predict a pattern found amongst a potentially limitless population.While Earth has experienced a pattern of communication that uses prophets and scriptures, there is no guarantee that other planets have experienced the same mode of communication with God. In fact, according to Moses 7:36, Earth is unique amongst all planets in that it is the most wicked. One may fairly speculate that Earth is a special case, maybe even an outlier, and thus, is not indicative of how other planets operate with respect to communication from the Celestial abode.We have direct, individual communication with Him, too, but it's not binding on anyone but the recipient. God has always worked to create a "Zion people" on this planet, from among those who belong to His church. We have several earthly examples of His succeeding if only for a short time. That's His pattern. There is nothing but vain imagination to suggest He'd act in any other way merely because among an other set of His children.When considering an interplanetary gospel, it is helpful to refer to 'us' as Earthlings. This will remind the writer that we not only have brothers and sisters on other planets, but that those planets are unique from Earth, and potentially, unique in their practice of the gospel.Not only possible, I'd say the probability is 1.Well, that is interesting. Each planet has it's own scriptures. Tell me, Lehi, do you think it is possible that different planets make different covenants? That is, does every planet have The Word of Wisdom? Law of Tithing? Temples?H.
JeremyOrbe-Smith Posted March 31, 2012 Posted March 31, 2012 (edited) Treasures in the Heavens & The Circle and the Square are both excellent. Edited March 31, 2012 by JeremyOrbe-Smith
DarkScythe Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 If there is life in the universe, their appearance is an unknown and so is their culture and spiritual needs. So There will be a gospel tailored to them. For All are God's children regardless how they look.For the Essence of God is Intelligence. Like us, Our cousins in the universe will be intelligent. One of my several opinions, that there is a possible Cathar species(a feline humanoid race from star wars) in the Universe. Remember the Person with the Lions head in heaven praising God. I do believe that his race is both symbolic and an older humanoid race.
LDSToronto Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 If there is life in the universe, their appearance is an unknown and so is their culture and spiritual needs. So There will be a gospel tailored to them. For All are God's children regardless how they look.For the Essence of God is Intelligence. Like us, Our cousins in the universe will be intelligent. One of my several opinions, that there is a possible Cathar species(a feline humanoid race from star wars) in the Universe. Remember the Person with the Lions head in heaven praising God. I do believe that his race is both symbolic and an older humanoid race.How do you baptize cat-people without getting your eye's clawed out? 1
silvermoon383 Posted April 1, 2012 Posted April 1, 2012 How do you baptize cat-people without getting your eye's clawed out?Very carefully? 1
blackstrap Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 How do you baptize cat-people without getting your eye's clawed out?White mittens.
blackstrap Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 It is also stated that other worlds have passed away,so the atonement seems to be an ongoing process.
blackstrap Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 I have a good chuckle when I read of the requirements for a planet to be ' earthlike' .Talk about setting the bar really,really low.
KevinG Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 I have a good chuckle when I read of the requirements for a planet to be ' earthlike' .Talk about setting the bar really,really low.Just some rocks and an atmosphere that isn't boiling. We carbon based creatures aren't too picky.
thesometimesaint Posted April 3, 2012 Posted April 3, 2012 There are carbon based life forms that love boiling hot water of deep ocean vents. There maybe some silicon based life forms out there somewhere in the universe, but functionally speaking it is much easier to use carbon.
blackstrap Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 I find it hard to understand the search for life on some quasiplanet a couple of lifetimes away from earth when we don't know about all the life forms in the northwest forests,or the Amazon,let alone the deep oceans. Typical humans,always sticking their noses into what is happening to neighbors down the block and missing the big events in their own kitchen.
Stargazer Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 How do you baptize cat-people without getting your eye's clawed out?Tigers like swimming, so it is possible other cat-people might be OK with it.
KevinG Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Is baptism required for beings who live in a liquid atmosphere?
Stargazer Posted April 4, 2012 Posted April 4, 2012 Is baptism required for beings who live in a liquid atmosphere?Perhaps un-immersion is the equivalent.
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 If life was verified on other planets There is probably no life in the Planet Venus https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2wvqcHNonJ8
ERayR Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 There is probably no life in the Planet Venus Why not? All it has to do is evolve to fit its environment.
MormonFreeThinker Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Why not? All it has to do is evolve to fit its environment. The Planet Venus is very hot, it is the hottest planet in the solar system, so there is probably no life, but we don't know.
strappinglad Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 Here's an article about another of the so called " goldilocks " requirements needed to have an earthlike planet. A ' force field' is needed to stop deadly radiation . http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v515/n7528/full/nature13956.html#affil-auth
carbon dioxide Posted December 3, 2014 Posted December 3, 2014 (edited) http://www.theage.co...0328-1vytq.htmlIf life was verified on other planets, it would be interesting to see each faith respond to it. I think Mormons would respond very well. How do you think each group would react to this kind of news?Edit: "There could be many billions of planets not much bigger than Earth circling faint stars in our galaxy, says an international team of astronomers."http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-17532470LDS would respond to it well. Moses 1 says that many worlds like ours have existed, exist now, and will exist in the future. Our earth just one of possibly billions in the universe. That fact shows me that God will not change his laws like on the issue of gay marriage to appease some people on just one world. Despite what our media tells us, the views of our modern society is the the tiny, tiny minority of what is found across the universe. God is not going to change the laws to appease one world while offending billions of others. Edited December 3, 2014 by carbon dioxide
The Nehor Posted December 4, 2014 Posted December 4, 2014 Considering we are taught this world is the worst of all I think we should assume that if we make contact they would seek to quarantine or destroy us. I wouldn't really blame them.
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