How would the world look like if everyone was a Saint?

[Calm]

38 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

ell..next time i will try to pay more attention. And if necessary i will ask for clarification. 

I hope you can do that. I know it may be hard to remember in the moment when it may seem clear to you what someone means, but it will save you and others who then respond to you hassles in the future. It is something we all should do, imo, when we come across what we think is negativity, even if it’s someone who we see as consistently negative.

Edited November 3, 2024 by Calm

[Dario_M]

18 minutes ago, Calm said:

I hope you can do that. I know it may be hard to remember in the moment when it may seem clear to you what someone means, but it will save you and others who then respond to you hassles in the future.

I get that. I'm only human. 🤷‍♀️

18 minutes ago, Calm said:

It is something we all should do, imo, when we come across what we think is negativity, even if it’s someone who we see as consistently negative.

Yeah and there are some here who are so negative all the time (not gonna call names) and those people make it difficult. Sometimes i loss my patients a bit. And then i can react a bit to direct maybe. But i always try to stay respectfull. I'm not in Portugal anymore. I'm not that frustrated person i once was. So i try to see the best in the people on this board. 

[SeekingUnderstanding]

34 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

I get that. I'm only human. 🤷‍♀️

This is coming from a Godless atheist working hard to make Utah a worse place so you can take it with a grain of salt. BUT WE ARE ALL ONLY HUMAN. Latter-day Saints don’t hold any patents on goodness. And as you have shown throughout this thread (specially here your behavior toward mustard seed), Latter-day Saints can be jerks just like the rest of us. Maybe instead of spending all your time looking at the “motes” in the eyes of those around you, you should be taking a careful look at the “beam” in your own eye. And since King James reference might be missed see Matthew 7 starting in verse 3:

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Why do you see the speck in your neighbor’s eye but do not notice the log in your own eye? ⁴ Or how can you say to your neighbor, ‘Let me take the speck out of your eye,’ while the log is in your own eye? ⁵ You hypocrite, first take the log out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your neighbor’s eye.

 

 

[Dario_M]

27 minutes ago, SeekingUnderstanding said:

This is coming from a Godless atheist working hard to make Utah a worse place so you can take it with a grain of salt. BUT WE ARE ALL ONLY HUMAN. Latter-day Saints don’t hold any patents on goodness. And as you have shown throughout this thread (specially here your behavior toward mustard seed), Latter-day Saints can be jerks just like the rest of us. Maybe instead of spending all your time looking at the “motes” in the eyes of those around you, you should be taking a careful look at the “beam” in your own eye. And since King James reference might be missed see Matthew 7 starting in verse 3:

 

Why this reaction? I had misread her post. I have admitted my mistake. So...can you please act normal? Otherwise i have no better choice then just report you. 

Edited November 3, 2024 by Dario_M

[Kenngo1969]

For what it's worth (and of course, this is simply anecdotal and is not intended, in any way, to be empirical or probative: It's simply one man's observation)—take it for whatever you believe it to be worth, or if you believe it to be worthless, by all means, leave it—some of the best Latter-day Saints I've ever had the privilege of knowing live [or have lived] in California.  And I've known some Latter-day Saints, including not a few in Utah, that one wouldn't know are [nominal] Latter-day Saints unless they disclosed that fact.)  And, provided they confess Christ's Kingship and Lordship, there will be good people of all sorts of religious stripes on earth during the Terrestrial World of Christ's Millennial Reign.

And I'll take a good [fill-in-the-blank here: Catholic, Methodist, Baptist, Atheist, Agnostic, and so on, ad infinitum] over a "bad" Latter-day Saint any day.  In some ways, I might even be a "bad" Latter-day Saint.  (Thank God, literally, for the Atonement!)  As Brigham Young is reported once to have said (is it you, @Doctor Steuss, that I have to thank for this quote?), "A good man is a good man [substitute "person" here], whether in this Church or out of it."  And, as the Lord Himself said:
 

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"For the power is in them, wherein they are agents unto themselves. And inasmuch as [people] do good"—and note that there is no religious limitation here: He doesn't say, "inasmuch as the Saints do good"; this includes people of whatever religious stripe, and even people of no particular religious stripe—"they shall in nowise lose their reward."

     —Doctrine and Covenants 58:28

 

All of this having been said, the longer I've lived, the more I yearn for God and for His Righteousness.  Yes, there are plenty of sins of my own over which, still, I sorrow: I am far from perfect.  And yes, I have a lot of work to do yet.  And yes, anyone else's standing before God is a matter for that person, for God, and for no one else, and I am content to leave it there.  But, as for me and my house?  "Come, Lord Jesus!" Revelation 22:20. Come, "beautiful, bright Millennial day!"  "The Day Dawn is Breaking," Hymns of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (1985) no. 52.

Back to lurking , since I've probably managed to offend somebody even though it wasn't my intent.   Apologies for the interruption!  Carry on!

Edited November 3, 2024 by Kenngo1969

[Dario_M]

But i've never said that a LDS member from California is less worthy then a LDS member from Utah. 

[SeekingUnderstanding]

34 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Why this reaction? I had misread her post. I have admitted my mistake. So...can you please act normal? Otherwise i have no better choice then just report you. 

Respectfully, because you keep starting threads about how much better Latter-day Saints are! Especially when compared with those who have left your faith community. But as you have pointed out we are only human. So maybe work on your own flaws before you start picking at others. 

[Dario_M]

Okay you are putting words into my mouth. I'm really sorry. But....i've reported you now @SeekingUnderstanding 

Edited November 3, 2024 by Dario_M

[SeekingUnderstanding]

5 minutes ago, Dario_M said:

Okay you are putting words into my mouth. I'm really sorry. But....i've reported you now @SeekingUnderstanding 

And as a guest on their board, I of course, will submit to the moderators judgment without complaint. And I will also apologize to them in advance that they have been called in to look at such a petty matter on their Sunday. 
 

 

[Dario_M]

I'm actually hoping that this topic gets closed. I believe that everything has been said. 😞

 

[Kenngo1969]

2 hours ago, Dario_M said:

But i've never said that a LDS member from California is less worthy then a LDS member from Utah. 

I didn't say you did, Sir.  Apologies for any confusion.  

[Dario_M]

Just now, Kenngo1969 said:

I didn't say you did, Sir.  Apologies for any confusion.  

I didn't mean that you did said that. No worries.😉 I only wanted to mention it in case somebody thought that about me.