Police Chief for USU Police Warns Football Team re: Sex w "Mormon Women" - Part II

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A Utah State student has settled her high-profile case against the university and is set to receive $500,000. The suit exposed the university police chief for warning the football team about Mormon women in regard to consensual sex.

Kaytriauna Flint’s originally filed against the school in 2021. Her lawsuit reignited allegations that Utah State University was deliberately turning a blind eye to women who reported being sexually assaulted by a member of the football team. Flint said that it happened to her.

A 2020 Department of Justice investigation found that the university failed to address multiple incidents of “severe sexual harassment, including rapes and other forcible sexual assaults.” Flint’s suit alleged that the university did not make the changes that it promised the DOJ it would make.

“There was a huge lack of urgency and structure and accountability when I was going through my process with Utah State,” she said earlier this week. “It just felt like they were never hearing me. Going into the lawsuit, I felt that was the only way they would hear me.”

During the legal process, Kaytriauna Flint’s filing against Utah State brought a damning recording to light.

Former Utah State Police Chief Earl Morris spoke to members of the football program. He warned the team that Latter-Day Saints women “may have sex with you,” but will often tell their bishop that the encounter was nonconsensual because it’s “easier.”

Morris also said that the women might “feel regret” for having sex before marriage. That goes against the Mormon faith’s teachings of abstinence. In turn, he told players that women will claim sexual assault as a way to release the guilt of sin.

A second recording is of head football coach Blake Anderson. He can be heard telling players that it “has never been more glamorized to be a victim” of sexual assault. He later issued a public apology and Morris resigned from his post.

Flint has agreed to drop all claims against the university in exchange for the $500,000 payout. However, in the settlement, Utah State does not admit any guilt.

It seems like some (many?) colleges and universities want to be their own little fiefdoms, but then have difficulty in replicating all of the functions we generally expect from "government."  Law enforcement - particularly as pertaining to sexual behavior/misconduct - seems to be a really tough thing to get right.  But then, regular civil authorities also have substantial difficulty in this area.

Thanks,

-Smac

[LoudmouthMormon]

Heh.  Two random stories from my college days:

- When I tried to buy a parking pass, they refused to sell me one.  Because I was driving my parent's car to college, and it had handicap plates.  The people in the permit office seemed offended that I was declining an advantage meant for disabled people.  It seemed to be just a bit beyond them to understand that I was not disabled, even though I plainly stated it several times.  I was driving a car with handicap plates, therefore I must be handicapped, therefore I must accept the blessing bestowed by the virtuous permit office of being able to park wherever I wanted.  The fact that I had a problem with that, appeared to mean I was somehow in denial of my own favored status.   What was worse, they told me I HAD TO park in handicap stalls only, or metered spots - not general student parking.  I'd get a ticket if I parked in student parking with no student permit.  So I spent 2+ years enduring nasty looks from my fellow students as I passed all their cars waiting for an open spot, to take a handicap spot, when I obviously wasn't.

- Smac's fiefdom comment reminded me of the on-campus cops.  One guy had a battery powered radar gun, and would often be seen crawling along the ground army guy style, to peer over a small hill and point his gun like a sniper to catch unsuspecting speeders who were going 35 in a 30.

[bluebell]

1 hour ago, LoudmouthMormon said:

Heh.  Two random stories from my college days:

- When I tried to buy a parking pass, they refused to sell me one.  Because I was driving my parent's car to college, and it had handicap plates.  The people in the permit office seemed offended that I was declining an advantage meant for disabled people.  It seemed to be just a bit beyond them to understand that I was not disabled, even though I plainly stated it several times.  I was driving a car with handicap plates, therefore I must be handicapped, therefore I must accept the blessing bestowed by the virtuous permit office of being able to park wherever I wanted.  The fact that I had a problem with that, appeared to mean I was somehow in denial of my own favored status.   What was worse, they told me I HAD TO park in handicap stalls only, or metered spots - not general student parking.  I'd get a ticket if I parked in student parking with no student permit.  So I spent 2+ years enduring nasty looks from my fellow students as I passed all their cars waiting for an open spot, to take a handicap spot, when I obviously wasn't.

- Smac's fiefdom comment reminded me of the on-campus cops.  One guy had a battery powered radar gun, and would often be seen crawling along the ground army guy style, to peer over a small hill and point his gun like a sniper to catch unsuspecting speeders who were going 35 in a 30.

My teens go to a weber state based high school, and you have to buy an $80 parking pass to park on campus.  This is so dumb to me because it's a satellite campus from the main one, and they literally have hundreds of empty parking stalls every day.  I've never even seen the lot half full, let alone people fighting for spaces.  But, whatever.

My oldest bought the pass but then one day parked in the free visitor parking (they have three stalls) while it was hanging in his window and immediately got a ticket.  I get it, but it still made me laugh.

[SeekingUnderstanding]

23 minutes ago, Brahms said:

Money and sex are very big enticements in this world. 

Most people want at least a little of both.

Not seeing a problem here. Must say that I enjoy both. In fact I’ve heard it taught that sexual union is a sacrament of the highest order. I’d give you a source, but it’s my understanding you look down on those, so I’ll just attribute it to God. For others it came from here:
 

https://speeches.byu.edu/talks/jeffrey-r-holland/souls-symbols-sacraments/

 

[LoudmouthMormon]

48 minutes ago, SeekingUnderstanding said:

In fact I’ve heard it taught that sexual union is a sacrament of the highest order.

Everyone's big on sex, not everyone is big on the union part.

[MorningStar]

On 10/11/2022 at 4:11 PM, bluebell said:

My teens go to a weber state based high school, and you have to buy an $80 parking pass to park on campus.  This is so dumb to me because it's a satellite campus from the main one, and they literally have hundreds of empty parking stalls every day.  I've never even seen the lot half full, let alone people fighting for spaces.  But, whatever.

My oldest bought the pass but then one day parked in the free visitor parking (they have three stalls) while it was hanging in his window and immediately got a ticket.  I get it, but it still made me laugh.

When I was living in Provo, I got a used car that had an old BYU parking permit on it for a certain lot. I went to pick up my friend to take her to therapy (her mom committed suicide not long before that) and when she didn’t come out, I had to go park to run in and let her know I was there. I immediately got a ticket for parking in the wrong lot and when I called whoever to explain, they said I wouldn’t graduate if I had an unpaid ticket. 
 

Me: I don’t go to your school.

Him: You won’t be able to go to BYU if you don’t pay the ticket.

Me: OK. 
 

I never paid the $20. 😂 And yes, the lot was almost empty. 

[bluebell]

8 hours ago, MorningStar said:

When I was living in Provo, I got a used car that had an old BYU parking permit on it for a certain lot. I went to pick up my friend to take her to therapy (her mom committed suicide not long before that) and when she didn’t come out, I had to go park to run in and let her know I was there. I immediately got a ticket for parking in the wrong lot and when I called whoever to explain, they said I wouldn’t graduate if I had an unpaid ticket. 
 

Me: I don’t go to your school.

Him: You won’t be able to go to BYU if you don’t pay the ticket.

Me: OK. 
 

I never paid the $20. 😂 And yes, the lot was almost empty. 

In my experience, the people who patrol parking lots on campuses looking for violations are in a league all their own.  They take themselves way to seriously.