Stargazer Posted January 9, 2022 Posted January 9, 2022 But there's nothing to ignore! I'm confused....
Robert F. Smith Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 2 hours ago, Stargazer said: But there's nothing to ignore! ....................... Apparently, that is the whole point . . .
Fether Posted January 10, 2022 Author Posted January 10, 2022 Haha, I thought I found a bug in the temple appointment system (I did, just not what I thought). When I went to create an appointment on a date, it would t take me to the correct month, though it said I was in the right one. For example, it would pull up January 2022, but the date numbers it showed didn’t line up with what the real date numbers were. It fixed itself if I went forward a month then back. Everyone complains that all temple appointments are a month out, but they aren’t. I can make an appointment for Tuesday if I want. This bug in the system maybe be the culprit of why everyone is saying this. 1
Tacenda Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 Is this a free for all topic? If this is inappropriate please just ".ignore" it. Yesterday I attended a funeral for my sister-in-law's husband. She is my husband's sister. Well, turns out her sister, my brother's other sister couldn't attend because she had to serve in the temple. They were unable to provide a way for her and her husband to attend the funeral of her brother-in-law who died from colon cancer. He was only 70. They have had this temple assignment for a very long time and have missed many family things, and the ability to help my husband's mother at critical points. What do you think of this? I tend to not believe this church has a high regard for families sometimes. Am I wrong for saying this? Even my husband's brother who serves as a counselor in the bishopric was a little miffed that she wasn't able to attend and support her sister and her nieces and nephews.
Calm Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Tacenda said: What do you think of this? I tend to not believe this church has a high regard for families sometimes. I think it is likely your sister-in-law making the choice and not her temple supervisors, because I have known even senior missionaries to be able to attend family events. And I have had friends as temple workers and nothing like that happened that I am aware of. But we have posters who are or have been temple workers, so they can provide the best info. I had a grandmother who wouldn’t adapt. She would establish a schedule and couldn’t bear changing it. I guess it made her feel in control. Trivial stuff even like making sure she grocery shopped on certain days came first over a family request. There is also the possibility she is an introvert or for other reasons can’t handle social gatherings and this is her way of limiting her exposure. Or she just may see it as people who depend on her and she can’t let them down while her family she sees as not needing her for some reason. Is she younger or older in the family? And speaking as an introvert who highly dislikes funerals, I still would be forcing myself to go for a sibling’s spouse’s funeral unless I was physically in bad shape and would require people caring for me instead of being supportive of the ones who lost their immediate family and am surprised at someone who doesn’t, but is able to do temple work. (Because I tend to assume it is social anxiety that keeps people from these gatherings because I project) Edited January 10, 2022 by Calm 1
Tacenda Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 19 minutes ago, Calm said: I think it is likely your sister-in-law making the choice and not her temple supervisors, because I have known even senior missionaries to be able to attend family events. And I have had friends as temple workers and nothing like that happened that I am aware of. But we have posters who are or have been temple workers, so they can provide the best info. I had a grandmother who wouldn’t adapt. She would establish a schedule and couldn’t bear changing it. I guess it made her feel in control. Trivial stuff even like making sure she grocery shopped on certain days came first over a family request. There is also the possibility she is an introvert or for other reasons can’t handle social gatherings and this is her way of limiting her exposure. Or she just may see it as people who depend on her and she can’t let them down while her family she sees as not needing her for some reason. Is she younger or older in the family? And speaking as an introvert who highly dislikes funerals, I still would be forcing myself to go for a sibling’s spouse’s funeral unless I was physically in bad shape and would require people caring for me instead of being supportive of the ones who lost their immediate family and am surprised at someone who doesn’t, but is able to do temple work. (Because I tend to assume it is social anxiety that keeps people from these gatherings because I project) Nope, she isn't an introvert. She and her husband have served as mission presidents in Ireland. Senior missionaries at Southern Virginia College (church owned?). And served yet another Senior mission in the Preston London temple. One of our posters on this board even knows my sister/brother-in-law from knowing them in London. If they see this post they can vouch for me on this. I honestly think they tried to be able to attend. Here's what she posted on her text to all of us. Just before she texted we all discussed and eventually bought some gifts for the sister-in-law that lost her husband, here's the text below: "Thank you for working everything out. We've been in the Temple since 12:30 pm. We are serving in the Temple tomorrow also. The other two Presidency members have assignments so there is no one we can ask to take over for us. We will sorely miss being with the family, especially at this time. Again thank you for being so thoughtful and thinking of giving A**** this gift. Every time she sees it she will feel D***'s love and ours. We love you all."
Calm Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) I didn’t realize her husband was part of the temple presidency, which would make her the temple matron or highest woman serving there. If the other two couples of the presidencies were already unavailable, I can see why they may not be able to attend as that would require the temple to shut down, which would harm a number of families if live sealings are scheduled so I don’t see it as the Church not being family friendly. However, I am surprised there isn’t another option like there would be for all of a bishopric being out of town, but perhaps that is because there is highly specialized and time consuming training involved. It is still their choice though as they could have asked to be released or not gone on missions because they felt the family needed them more. I have known several senior couples who made that choice, others who didn’t and still more who chose at times to serve the Church first and others to put family first. Edited January 10, 2022 by Calm
Calm Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 57 minutes ago, Tacenda said: Senior missionaries at Southern Virginia College (church owned?). No, it is not church owned, but would be like those serving at my mother’s nursing home, appointed because a high percentage of residents were LDS. They probably invite church authorities to speak there a lot and it would make sense if they did given it is a group of young people choosing to attend in part because it is committed to church standards, etc. https://svu.edu/about/ Edited January 10, 2022 by Calm
Tacenda Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Calm said: I didn’t realize her husband was part of the temple presidency, which would make her the temple matron or highest woman serving over. If the other two couples of the presidencies were already unavailable, I can see why they may not be able to attend as that would require the temple to shut down, which would harm a number of families if live sealings are scheduled so I don’t see it as the Church not being family friendly. However, I am surprised there isn’t another option like there would be for all of a bishopric being out of town, but perhaps that is because there is highly specialized and time consuming training involved. It is still their choice though as they could have asked to be released or not gone on missions because they felt the family needed them more. I have known several senior couples who made that choice, others who didn’t and still more who chose at times to serve the Church first and others to put family first. I believe this assignment ends in August, or maybe I'm remembering wrong on the dates, but they are looking forward to spending more time with family. I wasn't kidding when I've said my in-laws are very active dedicated TCOJCOLDS's people. I have had to hide a lot about myself. The gig may or may not be up soon though because just the adults in the family are going on vacation in February and they all want to go to the temple during the trip. What to do, what to do.... Edited January 10, 2022 by Tacenda
Stargazer Posted January 10, 2022 Posted January 10, 2022 12 hours ago, Tacenda said: I believe this assignment ends in August, or maybe I'm remembering wrong on the dates, but they are looking forward to spending more time with family. I wasn't kidding when I've said my in-laws are very active dedicated TCOJCOLDS's people. I have had to hide a lot about myself. The gig may or may not be up soon though because just the adults in the family are going on vacation in February and they all want to go to the temple during the trip. What to do, what to do.... May I remind us all of this: And he said unto another, Follow me. But he said, Lord, suffer me first to go and bury my father. Jesus said unto him, Let the dead bury their dead: but go thou and preach the kingdom of God. (Luke 9:59,60) Attending the funeral would have been a good thing, yes, but if a higher calling would suffer as a result, then it appears the Lord Jesus Christ prefers that the higher calling takes precedence. I am also reminded of all the pioneers who sacrificed everything, up to and including their lives, to establish the church "in the tops of the mountains." Missing a family funeral is sad, but when all is said and done, would the deceased family member (if a strong member of the church) be offended if a relative holding a responsible calling chose to honor that calling?
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