Freedom Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 Hey everyone, I am looking for a talk from general conference where the speaker commented that, when he has a non-member friend for dinner, he takes them to a restaurant so that they can be free to drink alcohol. I though it was Rasband, my daughter thinks it is Stevenson. Greatly appreciate the help.
Peacefully Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 10 hours ago, Freedom said: Hey everyone, I am looking for a talk from general conference where the speaker commented that, when he has a non-member friend for dinner, he takes them to a restaurant so that they can be free to drink alcohol. I though it was Rasband, my daughter thinks it is Stevenson. Greatly appreciate the help. Facebook post from Dale G Renlund. Maybe also a talk? We can stand firm in our beliefs and have a loving relationship with those who hold differing opinions. For example, I believe drinking alcohol is a violation of God’s law. So what do I do when I am hosting friends who do not believe as I do? My wife and I arrange to go to a restaurant with them where they can order as they choose to. And when they order wine with their meal, I do not get in their faces and call them out as sinners. Similarly, can I be friends with individuals who are living together without the benefit of marriage? Absolutely. And when I am with them, do I stand up in great indignation and call them to repentance, even though they are presently engaged in behavior I do not agree with? No, of course not. We can stand firm in our beliefs and have a loving relationship with those who hold differing opinions. Let us not forget that the plan of salvation offers the love and mercy of our Savior Jesus Christ to all. 3
Freedom Posted October 3, 2021 Author Posted October 3, 2021 5 hours ago, Peacefully said: Facebook post from Dale G Renlund. Maybe also a talk? We can stand firm in our beliefs and have a loving relationship with those who hold differing opinions. For example, I believe drinking alcohol is a violation of God’s law. So what do I do when I am hosting friends who do not believe as I do? My wife and I arrange to go to a restaurant with them where they can order as they choose to. And when they order wine with their meal, I do not get in their faces and call them out as sinners. Similarly, can I be friends with individuals who are living together without the benefit of marriage? Absolutely. And when I am with them, do I stand up in great indignation and call them to repentance, even though they are presently engaged in behavior I do not agree with? No, of course not. We can stand firm in our beliefs and have a loving relationship with those who hold differing opinions. Let us not forget that the plan of salvation offers the love and mercy of our Savior Jesus Christ to all. that is the very quote I was looking for. I was so certain it was a conference talk, goes to show that our memories are not reliable. Thanks!
Scott Lloyd Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 7 minutes ago, Freedom said: that is the very quote I was looking for. I was so certain it was a conference talk, goes to show that our memories are not reliable. Thanks! The conference talk he just delivered this session is very like that Facebook post. 1
Peacefully Posted October 3, 2021 Posted October 3, 2021 27 minutes ago, Freedom said: that is the very quote I was looking for. I was so certain it was a conference talk, goes to show that our memories are not reliable. Thanks! You’re welcome:)
Bad_Wolf Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 I have an opinion on this: Thats pretty much - Give someone the freedom to be who they are wherever. Alcohol may be against The Word of Wisdom, but frankly... Theres worse things not to abide, especially for one whom has not adopted the teachings... Intent is more important than practice. I personally would rather if the worst kind of junkie were to sober up for church on sunday, even if he sits in the back, doing nothing. I wouldnt want to force him to do anything. One must be inspired to change, not shamed into it. (in my opinion)
Peacefully Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 1 hour ago, Bad_Wolf said: I have an opinion on this: Thats pretty much - Give someone the freedom to be who they are wherever. Alcohol may be against The Word of Wisdom, but frankly... Theres worse things not to abide, especially for one whom has not adopted the teachings... Intent is more important than practice. I personally would rather if the worst kind of junkie were to sober up for church on sunday, even if he sits in the back, doing nothing. I wouldnt want to force him to do anything. One must be inspired to change, not shamed into it. (in my opinion) I agree with you. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. “Don't judge me because I sin differently from you.” Dieter F. Uchtdorf 1
MustardSeed Posted October 4, 2021 Posted October 4, 2021 10 hours ago, Bad_Wolf said: I have an opinion on this: Thats pretty much - Give someone the freedom to be who they are wherever. Alcohol may be against The Word of Wisdom, but frankly... Theres worse things not to abide, especially for one whom has not adopted the teachings... Intent is more important than practice. I personally would rather if the worst kind of junkie were to sober up for church on sunday, even if he sits in the back, doing nothing. I wouldnt want to force him to do anything. One must be inspired to change, not shamed into it. (in my opinion) 8 hours ago, Peacefully said: I agree with you. We have all sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. “Don't judge me because I sin differently from you.” Dieter F. Uchtdorf Thank you 1
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