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Are polyamory and polygamy inalienable rights?


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14 minutes ago, JLHPROF said:

Protestants came from Catholics who came from Rome.  All the Romans fault.

And so the Purtitans came from the Romans.

See what happens to teenagers a few years down the road, dangit?

Posted
2 hours ago, mfbukowski said:

And so the Purtitans came from the Romans.

See what happens to teenagers a few years down the road, dangit?

It's true.
The further you get from original revelation the more outside influences are permitted to creep in.
People seem to think apostasy is an active choice.  In truth the only thing needed for apostasy is time and a lack of reinforcement of truth.  It works almost by osmosis.

The further we get from Joseph Smith and the gospel he restored the more apostate thought will creep among us UNLESS the prophet continues to stick to the things that God revealed.
If we're ever left to decide for ourselves, apostasy is inevitable.

Posted
On 8/31/2021 at 12:35 AM, JLHPROF said:

Utah reduced the penalty to a misdemeanor infraction (same as a parking ticket).

Wait a minute. A misdemeanor and an infraction are two different things. In the hierarchy of offenses in the US, infractions are not crimes, but are minor administrative boo-boos that involve fines only, and don't accrue jail time. They also usually don't require much in the way of due process unless the infractor wants to challenge the infraction. Misdemeanors are actual crimes, albeit minor ones, and usually potentially involve the possibility of jail time less than one year in length. Felonies are major offenses for which incarceration of at least one year is possible. So you can't have misdemeanor felonies or misdemeanor infractions.

So is the offense a misdemeanor or an infraction?

A parking ticket may be issued for each time an officer notices the infraction. Over the course of a day, if three parking officers notice a vehicle having overstayed its meter, then three citations might be issued. If living polygamously is a misdemeanor, then does the law direct how often violators can be cited? Once a day? Once a week? Or anytime the officer sees it happening? And how does an officer decide that it's happening, i.e. what are the elements of the offense? Could a man live in the same house with two or more women without being cited, as long as they didn't have marital relations? Or for equality purposes, could a woman live in the same house with two or more men without being cited? And would all three be cited, if a citation were issued? 

Not expecting an answer; I was just suddenly perplexed.

Posted
3 minutes ago, Stargazer said:

So ..?  ..? ..? ..? ..? ..? ..? ..? 

Not expecting an answer...

Oh. Well maybe those were riddles and not questions then.

Posted
1 hour ago, Stargazer said:

Wait a minute. A misdemeanor and an infraction are two different things. In the hierarchy of offenses in the US, infractions are not crimes, but are minor administrative boo-boos that involve fines only, and don't accrue jail time. They also usually don't require much in the way of due process unless the infractor wants to challenge the infraction. Misdemeanors are actual crimes, albeit minor ones, and usually potentially involve the possibility of jail time less than one year in length. Felonies are major offenses for which incarceration of at least one year is possible. So you can't have misdemeanor felonies or misdemeanor infractions.

So is the offense a misdemeanor or an infraction?

A parking ticket may be issued for each time an officer notices the infraction. Over the course of a day, if three parking officers notice a vehicle having overstayed its meter, then three citations might be issued. If living polygamously is a misdemeanor, then does the law direct how often violators can be cited? Once a day? Once a week? Or anytime the officer sees it happening? And how does an officer decide that it's happening, i.e. what are the elements of the offense? Could a man live in the same house with two or more women without being cited, as long as they didn't have marital relations? Or for equality purposes, could a woman live in the same house with two or more men without being cited? And would all three be cited, if a citation were issued? 

Not expecting an answer; I was just suddenly perplexed.

It's an infraction, on par with a parking ticket.

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