Hamba Tuhan Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 45 minutes ago, kllindley said: My observations are purely the result of anecdotal evidence from counseling with hundreds of women. Fair enough. Some years back, I attempted to date a woman in our stake, but it went nowhere. Later one of her best friends told me that the woman had been disturbed that I never forced the situation. She interpreted that as a sign of disinterest. Instead I was just being respectful and treating her the way I would wish to be treated. She ended up marrying a housemate of mine who wasn’t afraid of using a large dose of coercion. I suspect she found this more ‘attractive ‘ in courtship than she did in marriage. She actually divorced him at one point, but they’ve remarried and seem to be happy, which makes me happy. But I’m loathe to take one personal experience and project it onto all women. And I don’t think this had anything to do with physical attractiveness necessarily. 2
Calm Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, Hamba Tuhan said: But I’m loathe to take one personal experience and project it onto all women. And I don’t think this had anything to do with physical attractiveness necessarily. Please don't. There are men who are into submissiveness, but no one should assume therefore women should be generally domineering I am guessing.
Calm Posted July 23, 2018 Posted July 23, 2018 54 minutes ago, kllindley said: Yeah. I think we both recognize that is an important, but rarely explicitly acknowledged fact. Further, I'll argue that at least some women would be okay with it (or even admot to wanting) some degree of "light coercion" or "moderate pressure" or "reasonable force" from certain men. I have finally found something I disagree with you over. 1
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