Popular Post bsjkki Posted April 11, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 11, 2017 The Salt Lake Tribune won a Pulitzer Prize for its investigative reporting on the campus rape issues in Utah including problems at BYU and Utah State. Their reporting highlighted and brought needed changes to how BYU responds and assists sexual assault victims and led to a study and implementation of an amnesty clause and other changes. The investigation into BYU's police department on the proper use of the state database is still not completed. http://www.sltrib.com/news/5161643-155/salt-lake-tribune-wins-pulitzer-for http://www.sltrib.com/news/5146920-155/nearly-a-year-later-state-investigation 5 Link to comment
Gray Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 "For a string of vivid reports revealing the perverse, punitive and cruel treatment given to sexual assault victims at Brigham Young University, one of Utah’s most powerful institutions." Ouch! Harsh, but accurate. 1 Link to comment
juliann Posted April 11, 2017 Share Posted April 11, 2017 I am very glad there have been changes made. 3 Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, Gray said: "For a string of vivid reports revealing the perverse, punitive and cruel treatment given to sexual assault victims at Brigham Young University, one of Utah’s most powerful institutions." Ouch! Harsh, but accurate. During his 1983 Commencement Address, Hugh Nibley said, "But at BYU we don't ask any questions," followed by a knowing laugh from the students there assembled. Most of them were unaware of Nibley's decades of social criticism of BYU, nor of the real reason why he made such statements. Hugh was a product of UCLA and of U.C. Berkeley, where the students were always expected to ask hard questions and could not be diverted from it by dismissive or authoritarian responses. What is important to realize is that the Brethren loved and encouraged him. We are here on Earth trying to work out our salvation. Along the way, we ought to practice what we preach and not just go along to get along. 3 Link to comment
strappinglad Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 Unfortunately, bastions of free speech such as Berkeley and other universities have shown in recent times to be against the questioning of the prevailing attitudes . I suppose it depends on whose ox is being gored. 1 Link to comment
Gray Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 12 hours ago, Robert F. Smith said: During his 1983 Commencement Address, Hugh Nibley said, "But at BYU we don't ask any questions," followed by a knowing laugh from the students there assembled. Most of them were unaware of Nibley's decades of social criticism of BYU, nor of the real reason why he made such statements. Hugh was a product of UCLA and of U.C. Berkeley, where the students were always expected to ask hard questions and could not be diverted from it by dismissive or authoritarian responses. What is important to realize is that the Brethren loved and encouraged him. We are here on Earth trying to work out our salvation. Along the way, we ought to practice what we preach and not just go along to get along. Wise words, Robert. 1 Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 9 hours ago, strappinglad said: Unfortunately, bastions of free speech such as Berkeley and other universities have shown in recent times to be against the questioning of the prevailing attitudes . I suppose it depends on whose ox is being gored. Yes, the totalitarian Left can be every bit as dangerous as the totalitarian Right. Still, the classroom continues to be a bastion of free speech at the better universities, and professors tend to give better grades to the more rigorous thinkers. 2 Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 10 hours ago, strappinglad said: Unfortunately, bastions of free speech such as Berkeley and other universities have shown in recent times to be against the questioning of the prevailing attitudes . I suppose it depends on whose ox is being gored. Ever hear of Socrates? 1 Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted April 12, 2017 Share Posted April 12, 2017 55 minutes ago, Robert F. Smith said: Yes, the totalitarian Left can be every bit as dangerous as the totalitarian Right. Still, the classroom continues to be a bastion of free speech at the better universities, and professors tend to give better grades to the more rigorous thinkers. I'm the product of that bastion of university totalitarian Leftism BYU. 1 Link to comment
Popular Post The Nehor Posted April 12, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted April 12, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, thesometimesaint said: Ever hear of Socrates? Yeah, can't stand the guy. You bring something up with him and he pleads ignorance on the subject and then disingenuously and smugly he asks leading questions to try to tear your argument apart. Do not invite him to parties. Talk about a wet blanket. Edited April 12, 2017 by The Nehor 5 Link to comment
Robert F. Smith Posted April 13, 2017 Share Posted April 13, 2017 1 hour ago, The Nehor said: Yeah, can't stand the guy. You bring something up with him and he pleads ignorance on the subject and then disingenuously and smugly he asks leading questions to try to tear your argument apart. Do not invite him to parties. Talk about a wet blanket. You're all heart, Nehor. Link to comment
Judd Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 On 4/12/2017 at 0:22 PM, thesometimesaint said: I'm the product of that bastion of university totalitarian Leftism BYU. More truth to that than you think. Link to comment
thesometimesaint Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 I was there just after Dallin Oaks became its president. Link to comment
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