ksfisher Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 3 hours ago, bluebell said: This was my assumption as well. If that's all it was it would have been cool if the Bishop had lovingly corrected him so that people could be reminded of the what we actually do when we sustain someone in a calling. In the long run I really don't thing it's a big enough problem to need correcting. There are enough sustainings in sacrament meetings that I think everyone understands what is being done. The only time I would feel inclined to mention anything would be if, as mentioned before, the wrong name or position was announced.
bluebell Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 7 minutes ago, ksfisher said: In the long run I really don't thing it's a big enough problem to need correcting. There are enough sustainings in sacrament meetings that I think everyone understands what is being done. The only time I would feel inclined to mention anything would be if, as mentioned before, the wrong name or position was announced. I don't know. It seems like people are still confused about what exactly sustaining someone means and when we should and shouldn't do it. We have threads on the topic every now and then on this board and no consensus has been reached on either aspect. I'm guessing we aren't that different from the average ward. 1
ksfisher Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 38 minutes ago, bluebell said: I don't know. It seems like people are still confused about what exactly sustaining someone means and when we should and shouldn't do it. We have threads on the topic every now and then on this board and no consensus has been reached on either aspect. I'm guessing we aren't that different from the average ward. I think you're right about people not understanding what it means to sustain. But, I don't think the words used over the pulpit are instructive enough to help anyone who doesn't. Sounds like a good topic for a fifth Sunday lesson. 2
Bernard Gui Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 (edited) I don't believe a sustaining vote should be a rubber stamp. But in our non-confrontational world, raising a hand in opposition would create more problems than it would solve. If I had real concerns about behavior or character, I would simply abstain from sustaining and speak with the bishop in private afterwards. On another note, an African American couple was baptized into our ward a few years back. In the sacrament meeting after the baptism, the bishop asked for a show of of hands welcoming them to the ward. A number of people did not raise their hands. The couple were offended, never returned to church, and have refused to accept any apologies or explanations. That Sunday was a missionary farewell, and there were quite a few friends and relatives of the missionary who were not members of our ward, so they did not raise their hands. Now when I am visiting another ward, I always raise my hand when the sustainings are read. Edited October 25, 2016 by Bernard Gui 1
sunstoned Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 11 minutes ago, Bernard Gui said: I don't believe a sustaining vote should be a rubber stamp. But in our non-confrontational world, raising a hand in opposition would create more problems than it would solve. If I had real concerns about behavior or character, I would simply abstain from sustaining and speak with the bishop in private afterwards. On another note, an African American couple was baptized into our ward a few years back. In the sacrament meeting after the baptism, the bishop asked for a show of of hands welcoming them to the ward. A number of people did not raise their hands. The couple were offended, never returned to church, and refused to accept any apologies or explanations. That Sunday was a missionary farewell, and there were quite a few friends and relatives of the missionary who were not members of our ward, so they did not raise their hands. Now when I am visiting another ward, I always raise my hand when the sustaining are read. This is really sad. Would they not accept the explanation about visitors not raising their hand?
Bernard Gui Posted October 25, 2016 Posted October 25, 2016 6 hours ago, sunstoned said: This is really sad. Would they not accept the explanation about visitors not raising their hand? No, they would not. Many people have tried but failed.
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