bjw Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 I don't know about the mission pres, that is likely public record, the guy who gave the talk you should check with the mods first before posting it.I am seeing if anyone at FairMormon has contacts in the area so you can PM me the info if you want or wait until I know someone can look it up for us.Thank you for taking the interest in helping, I sent you a Pm with the info in it so you can see what I mean. I hope we can find someone who can confirm it.
Tacenda Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 Thank you for taking the interest in helping, I sent you a Pm with the info in it so you can see what I mean. I hope we can find someone who can confirm it.I think she got the message?
bjw Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 What happened? Can the mods fix that? For some reason it repeated my post. Fixed.
bjw Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 I think she got the message? lol, Sorry about that
Tacenda Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 lol, Sorry about thatHaha, at first I thought that was maybe a way to rack up posts, if that was what you needed.
bjw Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 I did. In your pm box I sent you possible correction of last night's message, sorry.
Raingirl Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 I had a conversation about this today with my ward mission leader and he assured me that this missionary is currently on his mission in the Sacramento Elk Grove area, and that he has met the missionary in question. So, it looks like there is truth to this story afterall. I still don't think it was appropriate for a missionary fireside talk, maybe for a fast and testimony meeting, but not for something people not familiar with the church should be invited to.Are you saying this story/situation is current?A fair chunk of my skepticism derives from the reference to a "wooden stump". And there is my up-close (close enough to change the bandages on his freshly amputated leg) experience with my late husband having had a leg amputated.I cannot imagine a scenario wherein the expectation would be that a young man forego a prosthetic leg in order to continue his mission. Young people adapt fairly quickly to such and it would make no sense to forego this step until after the mission. Take care of the medical situation and go back out later.And if there is a reasonable chance that a limb can be saved - especially on a young person - then that is the route that would be taken, not chop off a leg to supposedly stay on your mission.Sounds like shenanigans to me.
Garden Girl Posted April 28, 2014 Posted April 28, 2014 And if there is a reasonable chance that a limb can be saved - especially on a young person - then that is the route that would be taken, not chop off a leg to supposedly stay on your mission.Sounds like shenanigans to me. I'm still skeptical also... if it is true, then I can't imagine him fulfilling his mission with any real efficiency because of his limited mobility of using crutches, walker, or wheelchair... the rigors of a mission, i.e, walking or biking fairly long distances around town, etc. are too great. GG
bjw Posted April 28, 2014 Author Posted April 28, 2014 Are you saying this story/situation is current?A fair chunk of my skepticism derives from the reference to a "wooden stump". And there is my up-close (close enough to change the bandages on his freshly amputated leg) experience with my late husband having had a leg amputated.I cannot imagine a scenario wherein the expectation would be that a young man forego a prosthetic leg in order to continue his mission. Young people adapt fairly quickly to such and it would make no sense to forego this step until after the mission. Take care of the medical situation and go back out later.And if there is a reasonable chance that a limb can be saved - especially on a young person - then that is the route that would be taken, not chop off a leg to supposedly stay on your mission.Sounds like shenanigans to me. I too am skeptical. However, my ward mission leader told me the story is current, that having the surgery to have the disease removed would have meant he would have to go home from his mission for 18 months recovery with the new cadaver bone, so he chose amputation just so he can finish the mission. I was also told he is currently in the Sacramento Elk Grove area. While I didn't get the name of the young man, I did get the name of his Mission President.
Bikeemikey Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 I'm still skeptical also... if it is true, then I can't imagine him fulfilling his mission with any real efficiency because of his limited mobility of using crutches, walker, or wheelchair... the rigors of a mission, i.e, walking or biking fairly long distances around town, etc. are too great. GGI get the sense the amputation will take place after the mission...That is this is a pending medical crisis that will result in amputation if medical intervention is not immediate... This could be wrong.Hence the need have the surgery and a new bone now... or require amputation later...That may not be the case...Decision between amputation in the future (say a year or two from now) or drastic surgery now and 18-24 months recuperation time.It may also be the case that the immediate surgery with the new bone may not have a high success rate and often results in amputation any way...If the choice was between: 1. A 100% guarantee of keeping your leg with no reduction (or minimal reduction) in use with immediate surgery and 18 month recuperation and2. A 100% chance of losing your leg in the near future if you postponed surgerythen I would this story is really quite worrying.However, with dramatic medical issues it is really a choice between a terrible outcome and a perfect outcome.It is normally choosing the best of terrible options.
bjw Posted April 29, 2014 Author Posted April 29, 2014 If the choice was between: 1. A 100% guarantee of keeping your leg with no reduction (or minimal reduction) in use with immediate surgery and 18 month recuperation and2. A 100% chance of losing your leg in the near future if you postponed surgerythen I would this story is really quite worrying.However, with dramatic medical issues it is really a choice between a terrible outcome and a perfect outcome.It is normally choosing the best of terrible options.This was pretty much the way the scenario was described, with the phrase, "The Gospel is worth any sacrifice" being used at the end. So, I think the intent was pretty clear. Now, the real question is whether or not something was exaggerated, as I have now only heard the story from 2 people who claim to have met him, but I cannot vouch for it myself.
Bikeemikey Posted April 29, 2014 Posted April 29, 2014 This was pretty much the way the scenario was described, with the phrase, "The Gospel is worth any sacrifice" being used at the end. So, I think the intent was pretty clear. Now, the real question is whether or not something was exaggerated, as I have now only heard the story from 2 people who claim to have met him, but I cannot vouch for it myself.This error may have been due more to the story tellers ignorance of the medical complexities and facts than anything else.I for one would be totally opposed to my kids staying on a mission if it meant losing a leg.
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