Tacenda Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Why wouldn't it be? My dad tried it to help his chronic back pain but he couldn't go under for some reason. Every year a hypnotist comes to my county's fair and plenty of LDS get hypnotized. Funnest thing ever to watch. I'd love to get hypnotized if I knew I could go under. I'm not able to while being in the audience in one of those shows.
Calm Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 21.3.5 Hypnosis The use of hypnosis under competent, professional medical supervision for the treatment of diseases or mental disorders is a medical question to be determined by competent medical authorities. Members should not participate in hypnosis for purposes of demonstration or entertainment. http://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies/21.3#21.3.5 2
Tacenda Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 http://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies/21.3#21.3.5 Well I'll be, I didn't know this was in the handbook. I wonder if it works for sleep disorders? To all those up in the night!
Calm Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 Well I'll be, I didn't know this was in the handbook. I wonder if it works for sleep disorders? To all those up in the night! Not for me...but I don't have the patience to listen to the self-hynosis to put yourself to sleep stuff. I've had a couple of doctors give me relaxation cds, but they just set off my disorder into overtime. I find distraction by imagining stories to be the best tool...in a sense that is hypnotizing myself into another world...though I used to be better at it when younger, lost my creative edge or am running out of stories or ability to concentrate or something.
thesometimesaint Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 http://www.hypnotherapy-directory.org.uk/articles/sleep-disorders.html If you are experiencing a sleep disorder then it is important that you visit your GP who will be able to provide you with a diagnosis and advice as well as being able to rule out any serious underlying medical conditions. At this stage your doctor may then recommend or refer specialist treatment and services, one of which may be hypnotherapy.Hypnotherapy is all about changing patterns of behaviour and that is why it works so effectively as a treatment for many sleep disorders. Though the cause of each sleep disorder will vary from person to person, there are many conditions which are thought to factor into an increased prevalence of some sleep problems in certain individuals. Certain psychiatric disorders, sleep deprivation, various medical conditions and medications as well as previous trauma are all thought to be underlying causes of many a sleep disorder.Hypnotherapy has long since been used as a way of altering and reconditioning negative patterns of behaviour and it is able to do so by accessing the unconscious mind so it can seek out the root cause of the problem and alter an individuals perception of it.For example, many sleep disorders are fuelled and worsened by stress and anxiety, issues which can be effectively resolved with the use of hypnotherapy. Usually it is not a situation itself which causes stress but the way in which we react to it. By inducing a state of deep relaxation in an individual a hypnotherapist will be able to gain access to the unconscious mind so that negative thought patterns and reactions to a particular situation can be turned into more positive ones.Other techniques used may include that of hypnoanalysis which is a combination of hypnosis and psychotherapy, neuro-linguistic programming (NLP) which explores limiting patterns of behaviour, and visualisation techniques. Visualisation may involve asking a person to imagine themselves in a particular situation feeling relaxed and calm. For example a hypnotherapist may use the guided imagery technique among children with nocturnal enuresis, asking them to imagine something creative like locking their bladder up with a strong colourful key.A hypnotherapist may use a combination of the techniques mentioned or may feel that the best approach for treating your disorder effectively is just to use one. Either way, your practitioner will be able to tailor treatment to your personal circumstances to achieve the most successful outcome.
altersteve Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 (edited) It takes away your freedom of choice. So I'd say no. Edited November 8, 2013 by altersteve 1
Calm Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 It takes away your freedom of choice. Only in the sense that it lowers your inhibitions and thus you may choose something you wouldn't normally choose to do.... But then so does drinking and I wouldn't say getting drunk is a good thing.
EllenMaksoud Posted November 8, 2013 Author Posted November 8, 2013 Only in the sense that it lowers your inhibitions and thus you may choose something you wouldn't normally choose to do.... But then so does drinking and I wouldn't say getting drunk is a good thing.It seems like a better choice than Electroshock, or drugs.
Calm Posted November 8, 2013 Posted November 8, 2013 i think for medical issues it is a great idea just as alcohol and drugs can be very beneficial when used for medical purposes, but when used for recreational their overuse becomes dangerous.
followerofemmanuel Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) It takes away your freedom of choice. So I'd say no. I started checking out the relaxation video's to help me un-wind and sleep....that I believe is a slippery slope into hypnosis which for me personally I am not comfortable with. I listened to this one video and the narrator kept saying, "Surrender your will to me", You must give complete surrender to me".....over and over again. That I believe can provide an open the door to your soul, so to speak, to anything but God. Edited November 9, 2013 by followerofemmanuel
thesometimesaint Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 i think for medical issues it is a great idea just as alcohol and drugs can be very beneficial when used for medical purposes, but when used for recreational their overuse becomes dangerous. Agreed.
Calm Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 the narrator kept saying, "Surrender your will to me", You must give complete surrender to me".....over and over again. There is no need for that extreme, that is just strange imo and would make me more uptight if I heard someone saying that rather than less.
Bill “Papa” Lee Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 Is Hypnosis permitted?Church Handbook says no from my memories.
followerofemmanuel Posted November 9, 2013 Posted November 9, 2013 (edited) Here was a video that provides an example of why I think we should heed warning.... He says "You will obey every word I say" "Surrender your will to me" "You are locked in to the sound of my voice" ..(at 7:14...7:25..11:45-11:55 etc lots more) obey every command..it is impossible for you to reject what I am saying... Edited November 10, 2013 by followerofemmanuel
Calm Posted November 10, 2013 Posted November 10, 2013 (edited) http://www.themindclinic.net/ I think anytime hynosis is coupled with spirituality, you have a problem. I would avoid this individual's work. She also does past life regressions, psychic development, connecting with angels and spirit guides, dream interpretation, distance healing, etc....while she may be a great hypotherapist in her skill level, I would be too concerned about her interpretation and her trying to impose her own world view on her clients. And the whole idea of turning one's will over to another...it is just wrong. At the very worst, it might be okay for a therapist to suggest that the client turn their worries/anxiety...the negative burdens over to the therapist. Edited November 10, 2013 by calmoriah 1
boblloyd91 Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 Being a therapist, I feel that there are better ways of dealing with many of these problems than hypnosis. I feel this way because as others have said, you could be giving someone too much power, possibly even becoming dependent on them. In response to what follower and Calmoriah have said about inviting the wrong source, I had an unnerving experience as an intern. I was observing a relaxation group, where guided imagery was utilized. The narrator of the tape encouraged people to empty their minds and allow "beings of light" to guide them to a happy place. One group member ended up stopping and said that as he was visualizing this, the beings became evil and menacing. Granted, this fellow may have been having some challenges related to his mental illness, but ever since that experience I have been cautious. I also read a fascinating biography about a Jewish woman who converted to the LDS faith in part due to a negative experience she had when asking for an "angel guide" which is a common practice in new age circles. In fact if anyone is interested in that book let me know, it is free online though I forget the author name....I will look it up. Well, sorry to babble. Just my 2 cents! 1
boblloyd91 Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 I guess before I end my response I should mention what practices I do to deal with the same things hypnosis treats: DBT, CBT, parasympathetic nervous system education, deep breathing, trauma response education, and self soothing through the five senses, and more. I like these, and they help people. Best of all people are not in an altered state of mind, and can face their struggles consistently instead of relying on some external routine/person/ritual etc. 1
thesometimesaint Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 In the hands of a skilled professional therapist hypnotherapy is really no different than any other method used to help people with certain disorders. http://www.lds.org/handbook/handbook-2-administering-the-church/selected-church-policies#21.3.5HypnosisThe use of hypnosis under competent, professional medical supervision for the treatment of diseases or mental disorders is a medical question to be determined by competent medical authorities. Members should not participate in hypnosis for purposes of demonstration or entertainment.
Buzzard Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 I wonder when this policy was enumerated. I remember as a teenager (forty years and counting), we had assemblies at both my Junior High and High School where a hypnotist would come in and put students under totally for entertainment purposes. And this was in the Salt Lake City suburbs. I imagine that today, even without the religious issue, you would need parental permission slips signed in blood to participate. Back then, they just got student volunteers called out of the audience.
thesometimesaint Posted November 11, 2013 Posted November 11, 2013 Don't know. However McConkie in his Mormon Doctrine isn't exactly supportive of it.
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