Stone holm Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 Call it, "Opposition in all things!" See there is another metaphor in the movie we hadn't even considered
Calm Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 Haven't read it, am settling down for a nap so I can face grandkids tonight after only a half night's sleep last night (kids' anniversary today)...but this might have more to add to the discussion:http://www.mormondialogue.org/topic/61081-superman-and-the-myth-of-the-dying-god/page__pid__1209269897#entry1209269897
Stone holm Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 I was just responding on another thread in a discussion about Adam being of this Earth and that it was due to the ingestion of food grown here, etc. When I realized, oh wow, the same argument of Adam being created elsewhere and being placed in the Garden of Eden and consuming food from it became of this Earth -- and I realized, oh wait, that is exactly how the story goes in Man of Steel that Superman comes down here and eats and consumes down here and becomes an earthling different than the beings from Kryptonite -- the themes just keep rolling.
altersteve Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 (edited) You can find "Mormon themes" in anything if you look hard enough. Edited June 18, 2013 by altersteve
Deborah Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 You can find "Mormon themes" in anything if you look hard enough.After all "Mormon Themes" are the gospel of Jesus Christ themes. Althought the original Battlestar Galactaca definitely had specific "Mormon" themes with marriage for time and eternity.
Stone holm Posted June 18, 2013 Author Posted June 18, 2013 After all "Mormon Themes" are the gospel of Jesus Christ themes. Althought the original Battlestar Galactaca definitely had specific "Mormon" themes with marriage for time and eternity.Except wasn't that written by Mormons?
urroner Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 So, if throwing people out of windows is defenestration, what do we call throwing people through buildings?Entertaining.
urroner Posted June 18, 2013 Posted June 18, 2013 The most obvious, but least recognize Mormonish theme in the show is all about the pre-mortal life. The shirtless Clark Kent is completely based on what I looked like in the pre-mortal life. Well, that was before I was terribly wounded and disfigured in the war in heaven. 1
Stone holm Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 The most obvious, but least recognize Mormonish theme in the show is all about the pre-mortal life. The shirtless Clark Kent is completely based on what I looked like in the pre-mortal life. Well, that was before I was terribly wounded and disfigured in the war in heaven.With a little photoshopping ?
urroner Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 With a little photoshopping ?Extremely little. I had to tone the muscles down and make the face a little less rugged.
Stone holm Posted June 19, 2013 Author Posted June 19, 2013 Extremely little. I had to tone the muscles down and make the face a little less rugged.My understanding is the newest Lois Lane actress was a former Mormon, did you scare her out of the Church or something?
Deborah Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 Except wasn't that written by Mormons?Created by Glen Larson who was Mormon and probaly wrote some of the episodes.
Deborah Posted June 19, 2013 Posted June 19, 2013 The shirtless Clark Kent is completely based on what I looked like in the pre-mortal life. Well, that was before I was terribly wounded and disfigured in the war in heavenUrroner, you are funny.
Kenngo1969 Posted June 20, 2013 Posted June 20, 2013 (edited) Urroner, you are funny.Maybe he was dead serious Deborah! I mean, have you met the [undoubtedly-exquisitely-muscled-and-chiseled] Urroner in person yet? Edited June 20, 2013 by Kenngo1969
halconero Posted June 26, 2013 Posted June 26, 2013 The most obvious, but least recognize Mormonish theme in the show is all about the pre-mortal life. The shirtless Clark Kent is completely based on what I looked like in the pre-mortal life. Well, that was before I was terribly wounded and disfigured in the war in heaven.This has everything to do with Mormonism à la Arnold Frieberg.
halconero Posted June 26, 2013 Posted June 26, 2013 In all seriousness I just saw the movie tonight and thought it was great!!There were a couple scenes and lines that really resonated with me and my understanding of the plan of salvation. Of course there were the discussions about free agency but other themes like our divine nature as children of God, our potential to become like him, pre-existence and the Atonement all stood out to me.For example:Jor-El: "He is a son of El (coincidentally the Hebrew word for God)...He will be a god to them."-------Clark: "Where did I come from? What am I doing here?"Mr. Kent: "I will always be your father...but out there you have another father. And I believe that he sent you here for a reason."-------Clark visits a pastor in a church and while speaking there's a glass-stained mural of Christ. Later Clark falls out of a ship, and his body is making the shape of a cross. As this happens to him Superman's father says "You were made to be a bridge between humanity and us."I'm paraphrasing all these quotes as I just saw the movie tonight, but those are the big things I got out of it.
oMtonic Posted June 28, 2013 Posted June 28, 2013 (edited) There's a lot that I could mention (David Goyer/Zack Snyder intentionally embraced the historical Superman typology of Christ when making the film), but since it's late, I'll mention one that hasn't been noted here yet.Spoilers of course.After Superman faints on Zod's ship from the atmospheric conditions, he was "caught up in a vision" where he and Zod were conversing. This scene could be linkened to the "other, darker son" (who rejects the plan of the father Jor El and wages a war in the prior world, represents and in a sense desires a lack of agency and destruction, is shown in the scene leading into this "vision" with the sun somewhat behind him as he's introduced to Kal El, which sun is like what Lucifer aspired to be, etc.) tempting Krypton's "mircaulously born" son in the "wilderness" with the power to make the planet his/their own (and telling half-truth/lie about Jor El's will to the representative "Last Adam"). Speaking of the 40 days in the wildnerness: could that be likened to Superman finding the scouting ship (a fortress of solitude replacement) and communing with his father and learning more about his purpose and destiny before "going public with his ministry"--submitting himself in arrest to mankind?Sorry, I could go on and on belting these out. Ask my poor wife--we discussed Superman as a type of Christ for probably around 1.5 hours on the way home from the temple last weekend. Edited June 28, 2013 by oMtonic
Stone holm Posted June 28, 2013 Author Posted June 28, 2013 There's a lot that I could mention (David Goyer/Zack Snyder intentionally embraced the historical Superman typology of Christ when making the film), but since it's late, I'll mention one that hasn't been noted here yet.Spoilers of course.After Superman faints on Zod's ship from the atmospheric conditions, he was "caught up in a vision" where he and Zod were conversing. This scene could be linkened to the "other, darker son" (who rejects the plan of the father Jor El and wages a war in the prior world, represents and in a sense desires a lack of agency and destruction, is shown in the scene leading into this "vision" with the sun somewhat behind him as he's introduced to Kal El, which sun is like what Lucifer aspired to be, etc.) tempting Krypton's "mircaulously born" son in the "wilderness" with the power to make the planet his/their own (and telling half-truth/lie about Jor El's will to the representative "Last Adam"). Speaking of the 40 days in the wildnerness: could that be likened to Superman finding the scouting ship (a fortress of solitude replacement) and communing with his father and learning more about his purpose and destiny before "going public with his ministry"--submitting himself in arrest to mankind?Sorry, I could go on and on belting these out. Ask my poor wife--we discussed Superman as a type of Christ for probably around 1.5 hours on the way home from the temple last weekend. Yeah the free agency bit is what sparked the discussion for us. Also the age of Superman when he comes out, etc. etc. Interesting to read that the actress who played Lois Lane was raised as a Mormon.
sweetpotatoh Posted June 29, 2013 Posted June 29, 2013 The most obvious, but least recognize Mormonish theme in the show is all about the pre-mortal life. The shirtless Clark Kent is completely based on what I looked like in the pre-mortal life. Well, that was before I was terribly wounded and disfigured in the war in heaven.Man boobs!!!!
futuremissionary Posted July 1, 2013 Posted July 1, 2013 If I have a penny for every time I heard a member talk about Star Wars, Harry Potter or the Princess Bride as if it was written about Mormonism... Of course you're going to find that any story with a moral will have parallels to your own belief system.
Stone holm Posted July 1, 2013 Author Posted July 1, 2013 If I have a penny for every time I heard a member talk about Star Wars, Harry Potter or the Princess Bride as if it was written about Mormonism... Of course you're going to find that any story with a moral will have parallels to your own belief system.Well you left out Battlestar Gallactica
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