Ohio State'S Mormon President Really Doesn'T Like Catholics

[rodheadlee]

"I wonder if anyone in the Mormon Church today would make a speech about all Catholic

creeds being an abomination and all their professors being corrupt."

Regards,

Jim

Hey Jim do you suppose the Catholics are still burning people at the stake and seizing their assets?

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

Not "Stake President" but President of Ohio State University. The article makes it clear. You'll catch up by the time you read this post.

I have been having problems opening links, and posting is very sluggish.

[Calm]

I have been having problems opening links, and posting is very sluggish.

It has been very slow today...gave up and went a read a book instead. Feels faster now though.

[Bill “Papa” Lee]

It has been very slow today...gave up and went a read a book instead. Feels faster now though.

You mean a real book with a binder that takes up space on a bookshelf? How retro...

[3DOP]

"I wonder if anyone in the Mormon Church today would make a speech about all Catholic

creeds being an abomination and all their professors being corrupt."

Regards,

Jim

Hey Jim do you suppose the Catholics are still burning people at the stake and seizing their assets?

Hey rod, I am sorry to have come across an offhand remark by you that appears to me to be extremely exaggerated, and offensive.

That is a pretty serious charge.

It is your opinion that the Catholic Church condemned people as heretics so as to plunder assets?

The condemned were only "guilty" of being wealthy?

Is it your opinion that this was a widespread practice?

Could you give an example? In what place and time do you suggest that the Catholic Church had this kind of authority?

The Church has always denied itself the authority to exercise capital punishment. Right? You dispute that denial then?

So are you saying that the Church commonly did this against the laws of the temporal power but the political power was powerless to stop the Church?

As the record shows, I was not in the least offended at the words of Gordon Gee, however I am afraid I can't let this unsubstantiated accusation pass since I now have noticed it, albeit two weeks late. Civil law in some times and places have permitted that heretical disturbers of the peace (those who preached against the religious majority) could be tried in ecclesiastical courts and sentenced by the state which was the authority to carry out the sentence. These kinds of law were not unique to Catholic countries. If you want to see a history of religious condemnation for purpose of plundering assets, the Catholic Church is far more aggrieved than egregious. I can offer documentation if you like.

Could YOU be the member of a church that has at this time discontinued a practice of "burning people at the stake and seizing their assets"? I didn't think so. No thanks for the compliment that we have stopped slaying people for money. I would rather that you merely proclaim our creeds an abomination.

3DOP

PS: And I have to say Rod that I like you and I am not personally offended. I don't think you knew how what you said would sound like to me and anyway, more than anything, I am not upset with you, but with uncritical propaganda against the Catholic Church of yesterday. Very few Catholics care to defend the Church of yesterday. They are satisfied if modern Christians congratulate us on being so nice now. They don't realize that by being congenially lazy about defending our Fathers they are playing right into the hands of anybody who needs us to be apostate today because of what we seem to admit we were yesterday. The day I stop defending our Fathers is the day I stop being Catholic. They weren't perfect but they were good and strived to serve God. We Catholics of today truly owe our faith to them, even if we are foolishly embarrassed to own them. They weren't even close to the heartless villains that everybody is happy to imagine in the "dark age priest".

[ERayR]

Hey rod, I am sorry to have come across an offhand remark by you that appears to me to be extremely exaggerated, and offensive.

That is a pretty serious charge.

It is your opinion that the Catholic Church condemned people as heretics so as to plunder assets?

The condemned were only "guilty" of being wealthy?

Is it your opinion that this was a widespread practice?

Could you give an example? In what place and time do you suggest that the Catholic Church had this kind of authority?

The Church has always denied itself the authority to exercise capital punishment. Right? You dispute that denial then?

So are you saying that the Church commonly did this against the laws of the temporal power but the political power was powerless to stop the Church?

As the record shows, I was not in the least offended at the words of Gordon Gee, however I am afraid I can't let this unsubstantiated accusation pass since I now have noticed it, albeit two weeks late. Civil law in some times and places have permitted that heretical disturbers of the peace (those who preached against the religious majority) could be tried in ecclesiastical courts and sentenced by the state which was the authority to carry out the sentence. These kinds of law were not unique to Catholic countries. If you want to see a history of religious condemnation for purpose of plundering assets, the Catholic Church is far more aggrieved than egregious. I can offer documentation if you like.

Could YOU be the member of a church that has at this time discontinued a practice of "burning people at the stake and seizing their assets"? I didn't think so. No thanks for the compliment that we have stopped slaying people for money. I would rather that you merely proclaim our creeds an abomination.

3DOP

PS: And I have to say Rod that I like you and I am not personally offended. I don't think you knew how what you said would sound like to me and anyway, more than anything, I am not upset with you, but with uncritical propaganda against the Catholic Church of yesterday. Very few Catholics care to defend the Church of yesterday. They are satisfied if modern Christians congratulate us on being so nice now. They don't realize that by being congenially lazy about defending our Fathers they are playing right into the hands of anybody who needs us to be apostate today because of what we seem to admit we were yesterday. The day I stop defending our Fathers is the day I stop being Catholic. They weren't perfect but they were good and strived to serve God. We Catholics of today truly owe our faith to them, even if we are foolishly embarrassed to own them. They weren't even close to the heartless villains that everybody is happy to imagine in the "dark age priest".

3DOP

I think Rod was indulging in a little hyperbole in response to this offensive accusation comment by Jim: "I wonder if anyone in the Mormon Church today would make a speech about all Catholic creeds being an abomination and all their professors being corrupt."

Regards,

Jim

The Catholic Church of yesterday was in some respects and in some areas an organization to be feared so the accusations Rod notes is not exactly without cause. The Catholic Church of today while not without its problem is indeed a much more friendly organization.

Striving to serve God is a virtue shared by all sincere and virtuous people be they Catholic, Mormon, Protestant, Jew or some other religion.

I can see how a continuous barrage of posts can prompt one to make comparisons such as Rod made. Please cut the man some slack and perhaps condemn the posts like Jim's that provoked the response.

Peace

ERay

[3DOP]

3DOP

I think Rod was indulging in a little hyperbole in response to this offensive accusation comment by Jim: "I wonder if anyone in the Mormon Church today would make a speech about all Catholic creeds being an abomination and all their professors being corrupt."

Regards,

Jim

I can see how a continuous barrage of posts can prompt one to make comparisons such as Rod made. Please cut the man some slack and perhaps condemn the posts like Jim's that provoked the response.

Peace

ERay

ERay, hey.

Did you not see my P.S? I sensed what you are saying later in the day that I made the post. Consider the slack "cut".

I luv ya Rod...you too ERay. God bless y'all.

Rory

[ERayR]

ERay, hey.

Did you not see my P.S? I sensed what you are saying later in the day that I made the post. Consider the slack "cut".

I luv ya Rod...you too ERay. God bless y'all.

Rory

Thanks and the respect and affection is returned from here.