DWhitmer Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 This is not a trap, if anyone can name the last miracle by J.Smith please share the date. Thanks!
thesometimesaint Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 That more people weren't murdered by that bloodthirsty mob in that blood soaked room of a jail house. 1
RadioFreeDeath Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 Define miracle, but I think it could be easily said that by his death saving the lives of others in the room was a miracle. John taylor and everyone else who was saved. Another take on the last miracle could be the passing on of priesthood ordinances before he left nauvoo. Or his last miracle being the prediction of his own death before leaving Nauvoo.
Anijen Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 Prophesying to Dan Jones the night before that he would serve in Wales. I know a fulfilled prophesy probably does not count as a miracle. 1
Mola Ram Suda Ram Posted May 2, 2012 Posted May 2, 2012 (edited) nm Edited May 2, 2012 by Mola Ram Suda Ram
CV75 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 This is not a trap, if anyone can name the last miracle by J.Smith please share the date. Thanks!Attending the April 2012 General Conference.
DWhitmer Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 Define miracle, but I think it could be easily said that by his death saving the lives of others in the room was a miracle. John taylor and everyone else who was saved. Another take on the last miracle could be the passing on of priesthood ordinances before he left nauvoo. Or his last miracle being the prediction of his own death before leaving Nauvoo.I was thinking more along the lines of the promised fruit of a Spirit-filled believer:17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover. (Mark 16)
Law22 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 This is not a trap, if anyone can name the last miracle by J.Smith please share the date. Thanks!Well, if by miracle you mean: "An extraordinary event in the physical world that surpasses all known human or natural powers," I'm unaware of any miracles performed by Joseph Smith.
mfbukowski Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 It's a silly question.I personally have seen miracles performed through the keys he restored. Of course I am sure those don't count.
DWhitmer Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 It's a silly question.Disagree. Jesus said to judge a tree by its fruit and I am addressing the fruit of J.Smith. Jesus also promised power by the faithful, sooooooo list the last one and date it. We'll see if it coincides with his dabbling in temporal matters when he was commanded not to.
Law22 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 sooooooo list the last one and date it. . .Nevermind the last one, can someone name anything that Joseph Smith did that qualifies as a "miracle?" (no, I'm not being difficult. I just didn't know he performed miracles)
Law22 Posted May 3, 2012 Posted May 3, 2012 Nevermind the last one, can someone name anything that Joseph Smith did that qualifies as a "miracle?" (no, I'm not being difficult. I just didn't know he performed miracles)Ok nevermind again. I found some stuff.
DWhitmer Posted May 3, 2012 Author Posted May 3, 2012 Nevermind the last one, can someone name anything that Joseph Smith did that qualifies as a "miracle?" (no, I'm not being difficult. I just didn't know he performed miracles)It is a legit question I'm not sure has been addressed before. One of the alleged unique features of Mormonism back then was the Holy Spirit. In several letters J.Smith wrote in detail about Mormonism and he never mentioned priesthood once. (Letter to Pres. Van Buren for one example.) What made Mormonism different J.Smith claimed was the Holy Spirit, that one must be called by it.Being central as he claimed, many reports spread abroad of miracles by Mormons, including the speaking in tongues. Far as I know, J. Smith never spoke in tongues, but I believe David Whitmer did (not to compare).In that environment where converts literally traveled hundreds and thousands of miles after first obtaining a witness of the Book of Mormon, the arrived with great hopes, faith, and expectation - which are precisely the requirements for things like healings. Why J.Smith was not seizing those opportunities daily if not weekly or monthly is a mystery and part of the reason for the OP.All the elements were there, why are they sparse??You are baiting.
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